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PostPosted: Jul 30, 2011 16:41    Post subject: Romanian Minerals  

I have recently been getting very interested in Romanian minerals, especially the calcites of Herja and Cavnic. I am curious as to the status of mining operations in the country. I have heard various rumors of nation-wide closures or something similar, but I wanted to have this confirmed or denied. I have tried to do some research online, but as you know, you cannot trust everything you read on the internet; however, I do trust quite a few of the people that post on this forum. So please, any help that could be given would be much appreciated.


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Calcite with Jamesonite Inclusions
Herja Mine, Chiuzbaia, Baia Mare, Maramures Co., Romania
106mm x 44mm x 42mm
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PostPosted: Jul 30, 2011 17:06    Post subject: Re: Romanian Minerals  

Hi Blake,

Few years ago and due to the entry of Romania in the European Comunity all mines from Maramures were obligated to end their activities, mostly becasue the kind of work they did was completely incompatible with the European Comunity regulations, but also because in fact the explotation was deficitary and they remained open just by the pression of the miners against the former Romanian governement. All Maramures county depended of the mines, so if the mines been closed then, many people had been ruined.

I hope it helps.

BTW, nice Calcite.
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PostPosted: Jul 30, 2011 18:44    Post subject: Re: Romanian Minerals  

This is a nice Calcite from Romania accented by a Stibnite cluster measuring 58 x 40 mm with 44 mm long crystals.


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Stibnite and Calcite
Baia Sprie, Maramures Judet, Romania
114 x 97 x 78 mm
"The Caterpillar" was formerly in the Marion Stuart collection.
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PostPosted: Jul 31, 2011 03:49    Post subject: Re: Romanian Minerals  

Hello everyone !
It can be said that the East European territory has been endowed by nature with many riches. Unfortunately, for the romanian people their appreciation and administration tasks were unresolved. The same is true for the governments after 1947. The consequence was that everyone here was "labeled" as semi-educated people. This is the result of lack of communication and of involvement, as well, in promoting their own values. In mineralogy, in Romania, a very important contribution had, in these years, the team of Baia Mare Mineralogical Museum,this was founded in 1989 and the teams of specialized departments in Cluj, Iasi, Bucharest universities. A major contribution to understanding and studying minerals from Romania is, absolutely, FMF and Mindat. Also, must be remember the contribution of several collectors, who passionately and without commercial interests, were able to collect, analyze (under unfavorable conditions) and label thousands of specimens.
Sorry for my poor english expression, but my generation has studied other interesting languages in the public schools and universities.
Best wishes,
Nicu Pascanu



Barite, Baia Sprie Mine, Maramures Co. inv.271.JPG
 Description:
Baryte with Boulangerite inclusion.
Baia Sprie Mine, Maramures Co., Romania
11.7 x 9.7 x 4.8 cm
Black Baryte crystals on back side of this specimen, due the Boulangerite (and Jamesonite ?) coverage and inclusion. See the child, next photo.
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Barite, Baia Sprie Mine, Maramures Co. inv.271.JPG



Barite with Boulangerite, Baia Sprie Mine, Maramures Co. fov-13 mm, inv.271.JPG
 Description:
Baryte crystals with Boulangerite inclusion.
Baia Sprie Mine, Maramures Co., Romania
11.7 x 9.7 x 4.8 cm, FOV-13 mm
Black Baryte crystals on the back side of the specimen, colour is due the Boulangerite (and Jamesonite ?) coverage and inclusion
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Barite with Boulangerite, Baia Sprie Mine, Maramures Co. fov-13 mm, inv.271.JPG



Barite with Jamesonite and Realgar, Baia Sprie Mine, Maramures Co. inv.345.JPG
 Description:
Baryte with Jamesonite, Realgar inclusion.
Baia Sprie Mine, Maramures Co., Romania
13.5 x 9.4 x 4.4
Small Jamesonite balls aggregates on Baryte crystals. Poor Realgar inclusion.
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Barite with Jamesonite and Realgar, Baia Sprie Mine, Maramures Co. inv.345.JPG



Barite with Jamesonite and Realgar, Baia Sprie Mine, fov-25 mm, inv.345.JPG
 Description:
Baryte with Jamesonite, Realgar inclusion.
Baia Sprie Mine, Maramures Co., Romania
13.5 x 9.4 x 4.4, FOV-25 mm.
Detail of Jamesonite aggregates on Baryte crystals, specimen inv 345
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Barite with Jamesonite and Realgar, Baia Sprie Mine, fov-25 mm, inv.345.JPG



Barite with Jamesonite, Baia Sprie Mine, inv.404.JPG
 Description:
Baryte with Jamesonite.
Baia Sprie Mine, Maramures Co., Romania
8.5 x 5.8 x 3.5
Small knobs of Jamesonite on Baryte crystals.
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Barite with Jamesonite, Baia Sprie Mine, fov-34 mm, inv. 404.JPG
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Jamesonite on/in Baryte crystals.
Baia Sprie Mine, Maramures Co., Romania
8.5 x 5.8 x 3.5, FOV-34 mm.
Jamesonite crystals penetrate the Baryte surface crystals. Detail for specimen inv 404.
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PostPosted: Jul 31, 2011 03:50    Post subject: Re: Romanian Minerals  

nicu wrote:

Hello everyone !
It can be said that the East European territory has been endowed by nature with many riches. Unfortunately, for the romanian people their appreciation and administration tasks were unresolved. The same is true for the governments after 1947. The consequence was that everyone here was "labeled" as semi-educated people. This is the result of lack of communication and of involvement, as well, in promoting their own values. In mineralogy, in Romania, a very important contribution had, in these years, the team of Baia Mare Mineralogical Museum,this was founded in 1989 and the teams of specialized departments in Cluj, Iasi, Bucharest universities. A major contribution to understanding and studying minerals from Romania is, absolutely, FMF and Mindat.org. Also, must be remember the contribution of several collectors, who passionately and without commercial interests, were able to collect, analyze (under unfavorable conditions) and label thousands of specimens.
Sorry for my poor english expression, but my generation has studied other interesting languages in the public schools and universities.
Best wishes,
Nicu Pascanu



Nicu, our antispam system blocked your first post because you wrote: "mindat.org." (with a dot after "org"), so although links to "mindat.org" are more than welcome, not the same to "mindat.org." ;-)

BTW, to see some more specimens from Romania please use:
https://www.topminerals.info/index.php?searchterms=romania&searchauthor=-&level=search

and

https://www.mineralogia.es/index.php?searchterms=rumania&searchauthor=-&level=search

To see all specimens from Romania listed on Mindat (4.793! ;-) -> https://www.mindat.org/gallery.php?loc=14254
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PostPosted: Jul 31, 2011 03:59    Post subject: Re: Romanian Minerals  

Jordi,
Forgiveness for this.

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PostPosted: Jul 31, 2011 10:52    Post subject: Re: Romanian Minerals  

Blake,
It is my understanding that all of the mines in the Maramures District were closed in September 2007. Also, all of the pumps were removed at that time, so I imagine that most of the mines are flooded, or at least partially so. I developed an interest in Romanian minerals about 25 years ago. Since the mines were in production at that time, specimens from Baia Sprie, Herja, Cavnic, and many other localities were relatively plentiful. Sadly, since the mines closed, they are becoming increasingly scarce. If you want to learn more about Romanian minerals, I suggest you visit Mindat.org and view the specimen pages for many of the listed locations.
Michael



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Calcite included with jamesonite
Herja Mine, Baia Mare, Romania
5.0 x 8.7 cm
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PostPosted: Jul 31, 2011 15:45    Post subject: Re: Romanian Minerals  

Blake Barnett wrote:

Thanks everybody for your replies and your photos! I appreciate it. And yes, I have most definitely been through most of the photos on mindat.org and minfind.org looking at specimens from the various mines. Thanks again for all the information!

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PostPosted: Sep 18, 2011 10:31    Post subject: Re: Romanian Minerals  

Nicu I lived in your country during 3 years 1972/1975 and my first son is born in Pitesti. During this period I collected some good minerals I visited also Rosia Montana where the miners "stole" me a Eastwing hammer (a very rarity here in this period) but they offer me some good pyrites. Impressive adventure in the Carpats mountains. La revedere


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Stibnite
?? Romania
10X8X7 cm
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Pyrite
Rosia Montana, Romania
15X8X7 cm
One of the gifts for my hammer
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Muscovite
Lotru valley, Romania
5X5X1 cm
Self collected
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Baryte
Cavnic, Baia Mare, Romania
7X5X2 cm
Small Baryte crystals on a big one
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PostPosted: Sep 18, 2011 14:01    Post subject: Re: Romanian Minerals  

Hi Jean Louis,
This "Remember" enjoying me.
It is possible that the Stbnite sample comes from Baiut area (Varatec Mine).Frequently, samples from Herja and Baia Sprie, as well, have finer crystals and form nice clumps. Rarely, in Baiut, Rainer gallery and Varatec Mine, these are associated with other minerals and have much thicker crystals. I post here a gallery collapsed, near Varatec Mine, where, two months ago, i found a sample Stibnite.
Excellent Pyrite from Rosia Montana, pyritohedrons crystals are, indeed, rare.
Rosia Montana is still a great mineralocal complex, which, hopefully, that will have a happy continuity, for all those who respect mineralogy and natural environment, in general.

All the best, Jean Louis. La revedere !

Cheers, everybody !



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Brainer Gallery
Gallery now closed.
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Baiut gallery
This gallery was closed in 2007.
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Roata Mine, 07.2011.JPG
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Roata Mine, Cavnic
Closed now. In 2007 is KO
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Old quarry and collapsed gallery.
Near Varatec Mine, about 800 m.
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Stibnite, Herja Mine, 3.8 x 2.3 x 4.3 cm.JPG
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Stibnite
Herja Mine, near Baia Mare, Maramures Co
3.8 x 2.3 x 4.3 cm
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Stibnite, Herja Mine, 3.8 x 2.3 x 4.3 cm.JPG



Stibnite, near Varatec Mine, Baiut, 3.7 x 4 x 4.7 cm.JPG
 Description:
Stibnite
near Varatec Mine, Baiut, Maramures Co., Romania
3.7 x 4.0 x 4.7 cm
Sample collected from a quarry, near Varatec Mine.
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Stibnite, near  Varatec Mine, Baiut, 3.7 x 4 x 4.7 cm.JPG



Tetrahedrite, Pyrite, Sphalerite, Calcite, Cavnic, fov-21 mm..JPG
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Tetrahedrite, Pyrite, Sphalerite, Calcite
Cavnic, Baia Mare reg. Maramures Co. Romania
FOV-21 mm. Overall size of specimen: 11.8 x 6.3 x 6.1 cm
Group of pyritohedrons Pyrite grown Tetrahedrite faces. Association with Sphalerite and white Calcite crystals; Rhodochrosite matrix-from famous Cavnic area.
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Tetrahedrite, Pyrite, Sphalerite, Calcite, Cavnic, fov-21 mm..JPG



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PostPosted: Sep 18, 2011 15:37    Post subject: Re: Romanian Minerals  

Hi Blake,

half a year ago a Balkan exhibition took place in the Mineralogical Museum of my hometown Marburg; i made this report for FMF:

https://www.mineral-forum.com/message-board/viewtopic.php?t=1665

Many of the minerals featured in this exhibition were from Romania, so i hope browsing it will be interesting for you.

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PostPosted: Sep 23, 2011 14:45    Post subject: Re: Romanian Minerals  

Buna ziua (hello)!

Nicu, Multumesc (thank you) for yous useful datas. May I ask you others?



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 Description:
Stibine (1973)
Herja mine???, Maramures, Romania
2X2X2 cm
2 clusters on siderite. This specimen is from Herja?
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Grossular on calcite
Timisoara, Banat, Romania
7X5X5 cm
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PostPosted: Sep 24, 2011 01:16    Post subject: Re: Romanian Minerals  

Hello Jean Louis !

Stibnite-typical from Herja.
The second specimen- yourself collected ? In this association, maybe comes from Ocna de Fier, Dognecea, or Sasca-Moldova Noua, Caras Severin Co, indeed Banat region.
Could you tell me an e-mail address ?

Sincerement votre,
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PostPosted: Sep 24, 2011 04:09    Post subject: Re: Romanian Minerals  

nicu wrote:

Could you tell me an e-mail address ?


Via "pm" please. Thank you!
(see: https://www.mineral-forum.com/message-board/viewtopic.php?t=706 )
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PostPosted: Sep 24, 2011 06:01    Post subject: Re: Romanian Minerals  

Jordi Fabre,

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PostPosted: Sep 24, 2011 12:35    Post subject: Re: Romanian Minerals  

Ciao Nicu. Nice collection. I`m from Romania too. Putem colabora. intra pe https://rocimineralefosile-banat.blogspot.com/ si stam de vorba. Thank u
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PostPosted: Nov 14, 2011 14:52    Post subject: Re: Romanian Minerals  

Hello. I`m new here ... i`m a mineral collector from Romania.

Very nice garnet :D !
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PostPosted: Nov 14, 2011 14:56    Post subject: Re: Romanian Minerals  

Here i will show a nice piece of grossular garnet from Dogncea area Banat, Romania


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Grossular garnet
Dognecea - Banat area Romania
15X10 cm
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Black calcite with siderite
mine Herja, Maramures - Romania
10X4 cm
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PostPosted: Nov 14, 2011 15:11    Post subject: Re: Romanian Minerals  

And here is a calcite egg , again from Banat area, Dognecea - Romania.


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Dognecea - Romania
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