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Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone
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PostPosted: Nov 16, 2016 00:40    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

Wow, that is hectic, I can imagine that one could do the same with a bottle jack only with a little less safety because you don't get to be as far away as you are with your equipment.
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PostPosted: Nov 16, 2016 10:02    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

The nice thing about the Enerpac rams is their cylinder height that's around 4" high so it fits into a rather small cleft. You get about a 3' lift on the 30 and 50, and with the shimming, your range of push is large. Hectic, no, it's very slow. With each pump of the handle, when the pump has gone to the second stage, the ram moves 1mm-2mm under a heavy load, so to get to full extension the exercise is very aerobic.
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PostPosted: Nov 16, 2016 16:15    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

The days grow shorter. Looks like snow soon. Must start wrapping it up.


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And as the sun sinks on another season, soon all will be frozen. Nothing to do for it but start trimming and cleaning. Oh the toil. (He smiles)
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 Mineral: Quartz on Dolomite.
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Quartz on minor dolomite.
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PostPosted: Jul 05, 2017 22:23    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

I have been busy with projects at 9500ft. in CO. and new prospects, so here's some stuff from Turtle Clan Ridge. Mostly Quartz. Quartz Collecting on the Little Falls Dolostone. Quartz, the most abundant mineral in the crust of the earth, depending on how you count it.


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 Mineral: Quartz
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Quartz, cluster.
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Shoes. Change out.
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Moved mostly by hand. We do have mechanical advantage.
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Moved mostly by hand. It can be fussy business.
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Typical quartz and calcite in dolostone.
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Looks better in person.
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Then there are these.
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PostPosted: Aug 15, 2017 15:37    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

Occasionally, at the ridge, we find pockets that have varying amounts of anthraxolite, a solid carbon substance, I guess it would be a hydrocarbon, that infills the cavity and sometimes engulfs the silica and causes odd crystal manifestations. Small amounts are fairly common but stories of early settlers heating their pioneer hovels with the material are passed around. Much more than this was needed, depending on hovel size. Pictured here are some of the contents of a 25cm. diameter pocket. I had crushed my camera earlier in the day and my flip phone takes the most inferior images, so no photo record exists. Be that as it is, the crystal was lightly attached to the ceiling and rested comfortably on and in the pool of carbon that filled 2/3rds. of the pockets bottom. This is the most anthraxolite we have found and more than twice the amount pictured was found, these being the largest.


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 Mineral: Quartz and anthraxolite
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PostPosted: Oct 14, 2017 10:40    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

Fire "Herkimer, N.Y. - It was a fire so big that all Herkimer County fire personnel were requested to help fight an out-of-control fire at the Herkimer Diamond Mines gift shop and offices on Route 28 in Herkimer around 6:30 Saturday morning. Fire officials are looking into what caused the fire. Herkimer Diamond Mines President and Owner Dr. Renee' Sialdo Shevat tells News Channel 2's Jason Powles, who was out at the scene, that she is devastated at what has happened, but she does plan to rebuild. Several fire departments, including Herkimer, Middleville, Dolgeville, Barneveld, Poland, , Newport Schuyler, and Trenton, all responded. The photo above was sent in to us by a viewer named Andrew Thomas. We will have much more on this story tonight on News Channel 2 Weekend at 6:00.". From WKTV, Utica, NY.
Not related to our operation, but, it is the second fire in a week involving quartz miners on the dolostone.



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PostPosted: Oct 14, 2017 13:33    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

Shocking news!
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PostPosted: Mar 15, 2018 16:12    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

We've always had good relationships with our neighbors, two and four legged, and it's a pleasure to be around both types. In the process of exploring Turtle Clan Ridge we are lucky to be able to help, in this case a domicile for the family. The way they work, they didn't really need us, but any time we can stand next to a pile of freshly dug dirt, we can help.These images are from fall, 2017.


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 Mineral: Quartz
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Quartz scepter, carbon included. Found in top soil. Then it snowed.
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All of these rather unremarkable crystals, show carbon included shaft sections within the clearer heads. These were found in a short time before the snow flew, and we look forward to more pristine crystals in spring.
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PostPosted: Apr 08, 2018 11:44    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

Had a chance to dig between snow falls, it melts fast.


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PostPosted: Apr 08, 2018 14:52    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

Beautiful!
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PostPosted: Oct 03, 2018 07:36    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

A few images off the dolostone. We happened to be excavating a water line on the ridge a week ago, and in the process, after digging a meter or so down in rather nice soil, we reached the edge of the bedrock dolostone. We took a few minutes to expose a short face and these began to tumble out of a pocket layer in the country rock. It was substantial. Abandoning the excavator seat and assuming a more delicate collecting posture, what you see here was collected in that long day. It has yet to cleaned and sorted and they seem to have the common 10 to 20 percent good to fine presentation. The quartz is abundant is this area of the Ridge.


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PostPosted: Oct 04, 2018 06:14    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

Wow. That's quite the haul for a day that didn't begin with collecting in mind! How's that water line coming along?
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PostPosted: Oct 04, 2018 07:02    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

Chris Rayburn wrote:
Wow. That's quite the haul for a day that didn't begin with collecting in mind! How's that water line coming along?


It's slowed up a bit, Chris. There are diamonds in them thar hills!



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PostPosted: Oct 04, 2018 09:27    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

Good golly, that's a beauty, Vic. Some one of these days I'll make a collecting trip back there.
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PostPosted: Oct 04, 2018 12:33    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

This is massive! Did you collect these from various pockets in a close area or from one big pocket? Did anyone else help you? Do you have more photos? What joy!!!
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PostPosted: Oct 04, 2018 21:38    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

Pierre Joubert wrote:
This is massive! Did you collect these from various pockets in a close area or from one big pocket? Did anyone else help you? Do you have more photos? What joy!!!


We didn't take many pictures, Pierre, There was a pocket layer and every couple of feet a pocket would present itself.The first indication was crystals spilling out of the bucket into the excavated soil and a closer look showed more in the hole. We didn't finish the project and the layers are still exposed. When I get back up there I'll try to remember to take pics. The hole was filling with water so we will have to pump out some ground water to explore a bit more. This is a view of the general area of the find.



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PostPosted: Oct 05, 2018 02:54    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

The way you work with your Amish friends says a lot about your kind nature:-) I am looking forward to more pictures. It appears that this is an unexpected new 'gold mine' Quartz area.
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PostPosted: Nov 08, 2018 07:50    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

More images from the huge find pictured in previous posts.


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Looking toward the location of the latest quartz find. First indications were to the right of the house, that's were the water line terminated. We assume that this area could produce much quartz, but, we must be surgical in our work because of the location relative to the house and barn.
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The rain has been abundant. Pockets can be seen exposed a meter or less below grade. We would like to believe this zone continues away from the house. We resist the urge to tear it up so near to the house and barn. And the snow is close so we must cover the line and reclaim the yard.
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PostPosted: Jun 23, 2019 08:59    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

A bit of work done on the ridge, not all collecting, but is quartz found. I hope to catch up on posting of the endeavor, but it's hard to remember to pick up a camera. The weather hasn't helped either. Fingers for scale on this one.


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PostPosted: Apr 10, 2020 07:41    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

We opened a different spot on the ridge and the results have been interesting and beautiful.


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