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PostPosted: Feb 20, 2018 04:42    Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2018  

Hi there,

The "Tobi" shown in the picture is Tobias Weise, the son of Christian Weise, publisher of the german mineral magazine "Lapis".

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PostPosted: Feb 20, 2018 06:28    Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2018 - Some thoughts  

In http://www.mineral-forum.com/message-board/viewtopic.php?p=60599#60599 Bob Harman wrote:
Hi Jordi!

Interesting observations ( http://www.mineral-forum.com/message-board/viewtopic.php?p=60598#60598 ), but not totally unexpected. Wherever there is a large and major mineral or fossil show, over time, there might be many additional small shows springing up.

Are the newer small shows having "dealers" selling all or part of their own (or a friend's) collection? Are the "dealers" buying stuff one day only to flip it at a higher price the next day (phenomenon that has gone on in some long standing venues for years)? Or are these "dealers" simply new ones and additional ones to the longer attending dealers that have populated the established Tucson Show venues for years? Or might they be newer younger dealers just starting out and trying to save a few dealership bucks until they get established?

Like you, I feel this trend certainly makes for an excessively long and widely spread out show. Do you think it negatively impacts all the other long standing venues?

Anyway, all interesting food for thoughts and discussions. BOB

To summarize:

- What I saw were the same classic dealers exhibiting in many more venues than in previous years.

- I did not see the young people who should renovate this hobby exhibit in these new places. In fact some young people who appeared last year at Tucson's New Mineral Show and who brought very interesting pieces, this year were no longer there and I saw them working for other dealers...

- I do not know if these new venues are going to impact or not the classic Shows. In fact my general state is of confusion because this year has been different from what I knew and I am still trying to process those changes.
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PostPosted: Feb 20, 2018 12:32    Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2018  

If anyone has high-resolution photographs or links to them of the MAD case or Ralph Clark's display, would you please share them with us?
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PostPosted: Feb 20, 2018 12:51    Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2018 - worst pun ever (sorry!) ;-)  

Tobi wrote:
Gail wrote:
It was a joy to see you and am always happy when you come to Tucson. Jim and I loved putting that case in.
Tobi wrote:
Gail, I fear you must have mistaken me for someone else: I wasn't in Tucson, actually I never was :-( But I found a photo of guy named Tobi in your show report, but this is another Tobi, not me ;-)
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Oh my. I apologize for the confusion! Now that I have a better understanding of which Tobi is which I shall be sure to distinguish!

No problem, Gail ... even Shakespeare said "Tobi or not Tobi, that is the question" ... (I'm so sorry for that pun, just couldn't resist!)

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PostPosted: Feb 20, 2018 14:19    Post subject: Tucson Show 2018 - Miscellany (1)  

A series of eye candy images taken by Jordi Deusedes and me at the Westward Look.


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PostPosted: Feb 20, 2018 14:19    Post subject: Tucson Show 2018 - The New Discoveries! (2)  

On Tucson Show 2018 - The New Discoveries! Jordi Fabre wrote:
México ...numerous Barytes found in the volcán vein of the San Diego Mine at the Santa Bárbara mining district in Chihuahua...

On Tucson Show 2018 - The New Discoveries! Jordi Fabre wrote:
Congo D.R.: New finding of exceptional Carrollites at the Kamoya South II Mine. It is difficult to say if they are better or not than those of the famous findings of 2001-2002 but in any case they are extraordinary.


I`m adding images of one of the new Barytes of the vein volcán of the San Diego Mine and one of the new Carrollites of the Kamoya South II Mine.



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Kamoya South II Mine, Kamoya, Kambove District, Katanga Copper Crescent, Katanga (Shaba), Congo DR (Zaire)
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PostPosted: Feb 24, 2018 12:56    Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2018  

dontgogreen wrote:
If anyone has high-resolution photographs or links to them of the MAD case or Ralph Clark's display, would you please share them with us?



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PostPosted: Feb 24, 2018 13:36    Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2018  

I have a lot of pictures of the shows. Enjoy!


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PostPosted: Feb 24, 2018 13:54    Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2018  

More pics from the Main Show.


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PostPosted: Feb 24, 2018 13:55    Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2018  

Turbo wrote:
The MAD case. I also have a video of the case if anyone wants a closer look.

Great photos Edward. If you download your video in YouTube then we can "encrust" here too...
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PostPosted: Feb 24, 2018 14:04    Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2018  

Main show favorites continued.


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Bigrigg Mine, Bigrigg, West Cumberland Iron Field, former Cumberland, Cumbria, England, United Kingdom
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Buick Mine, Bixby, Viburnum Trend District, Iron County, Missouri, USA
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I love this. The "Pyrite bars" from Buick are actually stalactitic. If I am not mistaken, they are from a one-time find in 1974 called the "Butterstick Pocket" at the 1250 level of the mine. 100 specimens were found in the pocket.
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PostPosted: Feb 24, 2018 15:06    Post subject: Tucson Show 2018 - Miscellany (2)  

A series of eye candy images taken by Jordi Deusedes in the Main Show-Convention Center


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PostPosted: Feb 24, 2018 15:26    Post subject: Tucson Show 2018 - Miscellany (3)  




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PostPosted: Feb 24, 2018 15:43    Post subject: Tucson Show 2018 - Miscellany (4)  




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PostPosted: Feb 24, 2018 15:47    Post subject: Tucson Show 2018 - Miscellany (5)  




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 Mineral: Sphalerite
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Bouismas Mine, Bouismas, Bou Azzer District, Tazenakht, Ouarzazate Province, Souss-Massa-Draâ Region, Morocco
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PostPosted: Feb 24, 2018 18:27    Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2018  

The Spann Brazilian Case of Tucson 2018

I have attended the Tucson Show for 30 years, Saint Marie aux Mines and Munich for some 35 and 33 years respectively, and mineral shows for 41 years. There are many many more senior collectors than me to have an opinion in this matter, but during my rather limited exposure to world class exhibits at shows, besides many visits to museums and great collectors, each numbering in the 3 digits, I must confess.

No matter what the theme, this case was perhaps the most beautiful and comprehensive theme case from one single collection ever to be put on display at any mineral show!

The quality and spectrum of minerals, all gathered in the past 15 years is nothing less than fantastic and most admirable.

Like Jordi, I know the Spanns well and they are dear friends. What a pleasure that such a sharing couple own these, and yes Gail, you are a true Ambassador in all ways for our pass and hobby.

Big THANK YOU for bringing this for all to see.
A photo of his case should be sold as poster in natural size!
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PostPosted: Feb 25, 2018 19:10    Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2018  

Already missing Tucson! Do we have to wait a whole year?!


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 Mineral: Fluorite
 Locality:
Jalgaon District, Maharashtra, India
 Description:
A really interesting Indian fluorite
 Viewed:  4296 Time(s)

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Minas Gerais, Brazil
 Description:
Morganite within a morganite
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Pakistan
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Pederneira Claim, São José da Safira, Governador Valadares, Vale do Rio Doce, Minas Gerais, Brazil
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Pederneira Claim, São José da Safira, Governador Valadares, Vale do Rio Doce, Minas Gerais, Brazil
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 Description:
Beautiful carvings at the Granada Gallery
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I do not remember what mineral this was. This was in the Granada Gallery.
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Gordonsville Mine, Carthage, Central Tennessee Ba-F-Pb-Zn District, Smith County, Tennessee, USA
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This is the largest example from the 29S Gem Pocket I have ever seen!
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Gordonsville Mine, Carthage, Central Tennessee Ba-F-Pb-Zn District, Smith County, Tennessee, USA
 Description:
"Little" sibling to the other Gem Pocket calcite. This was a big pocket c. 2012-2013.
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A giant Saguaro in Bear Canyon. It was a very dry hike this year. Not a drop of water in the creek.
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PostPosted: Feb 28, 2018 11:42    Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2018  

Just a comment. I have noticed that by far the most common error on specimen labels is “tourmaline variety elbaite” or something very similar. This is often seen on dealer’s labels as well as collector’s labels. Tourmaline is NOT a variety of elbaite. Tourmaline is a family of mineral species. Elbaite is a species. It matters.
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PostPosted: Feb 28, 2018 12:05    Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2018  

John S. White wrote:
Just a comment. I have noticed that by far the most common error on specimen labels is “tourmaline variety elbaite” or something very similar. This is often seen on dealer’s labels as well as collector’s labels. Tourmaline is NOT a. variety of elbaite. Tourmaline is a family of mineral species. Elbaite is a species. It matters.


John,

I had always assumed seeing this sort of label that the intent was to indicate the Tourmaline was the encompassing grouping (family), and that Elbaite (or other colour variant) was the subordinate (variety).

Would a label of "Tourmaline species Elbaite" then be more appropriate?

As a carbonate collector, I am, of course, just an innocent bystander in this kerfuffle :-)

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PostPosted: Feb 28, 2018 15:07    Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2018  

Personally I would favor treating the label issue this way:
ELBAITE - TOURMALINE GROUP
Elbaite is not a color variety of tourmaline. It is a species. Color varieties are rubellite, indicolite. achroite, etc.

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