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PostPosted: Feb 28, 2013 14:46    Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2013  

A casualty of price shock?


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PostPosted: Feb 28, 2013 17:50    Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2013  

vic rzonca wrote:
A casualty of price shock?

HeeHeeHee!!
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PostPosted: Feb 28, 2013 17:56    Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2013  

Or maybe just the effects of one of Tennessee's other famous exports?
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PostPosted: Mar 01, 2013 02:15    Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2013  

vic rzonca wrote:
A casualty of price shock?


Hahaha, or just simply overcome by the splendour of the specimen!

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PostPosted: Mar 01, 2013 11:32    Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2013  

I've enjoyed looking through the images in this thread to see what caught everyones eye at the show. Honestly there were so many wonderful displays, it's hard to capture in a collection of photos. The following are just a few of the things that I especially liked during our week in Tucson.


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Mt. Xuebaoding
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PostPosted: Mar 01, 2013 14:06    Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2013  

Nice photos, Crosstimber. I noticed the dead fly seen in fluorite photo earlier on this page had not yet been overcome when you shot that case of great fluorites (or maybe he's already been laid to rest?).
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PostPosted: Mar 01, 2013 22:52    Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2013  

Gail, unfortunately the practice of setting prices based on how much a dealer thinks a customer will pay is not uncommon. A few years ago I made the mistake of dressing business casual in Tucson instead of wearing shorts or blue jeans. I noticed that negotiating discounts was much more difficult than normal and decided to do a little test. I would go into a room and pick out a specimen and ask the dealer for their best price. Then, I would leave and have my friend (dressed in an old T-shirt and jeans) go in and inquire about the same piece. Several times he was quoted a lower price. One Chinese dealer in particular quoted my friend a price that was so much lower that I had him buy the specimen for me. We now joke about "Tucson dress" which means dressing down to get the best price.

My other comment about mineral prices in Tucson is that this year it seemed more dealers than usual were "fishing" - asking prices well above what they realistically hoped to get for a specimen just in case a less knowledgeable collector with money came by. I found one dealer with a fantastic large cab Tsumeb cerussite that did not have a price. We talked about the piece and he told me he was looking for low 5 figures. It was well out of my range but probably worth it. When I went back through his room later he had labeled the piece with a price that was 1.5 times what he'd quoted me.

All of the specimens that really caught my eye at the beginning of the show (but that I thought were priced too high) were still for sales days later. A few of these I purchased but at discounts that were 40%-60% below the asking price. I just wonder how much better I could have done if I had been able to stay until the end of the show.
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PostPosted: Mar 02, 2013 04:42    Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2013  

Glad to see such a set of nice pegmatite flowers, Crosstimber.
Roger.
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PostPosted: Mar 02, 2013 19:40    Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2013  

What to do on a cold, rainy afternoon in Tucson.
1. Try to stay warm.
2. Commiserate.
3. Go have a drink.



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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2013 11:33    Post subject: Tucson 2013  

"The Tucson Show". A short impression


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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2013 12:23    Post subject: Tucson 2013  

"The Tucson Show". A short impression, part two


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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2013 12:26    Post subject: Re: Tucson 2013  

Thanks, Herman, for sharing the great pictures!

To me, the lollingites with associated minerals were one of the most interesting "new classics" to be seen at the Tucson show.

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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2013 14:41    Post subject: Re: Tucson 2013  

Pete Modreski wrote:
Thanks, Herman, for sharing the great pictures!

To me, the lollingites with associated minerals were one of the most interesting "new classics" to be seen at the Tucson show.

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This polymetallic skarn is fascinating. I look forward to seeing some of the geologic reports of the area.
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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2013 16:27    Post subject: Re: Tucson 2013  

Hallo GneissWare.
Perhaps superfluous.The Mineralogical Record number 5, September/October 2012, has published a large article about the Huanggang Mine, with also some geological information.

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PostPosted: Mar 07, 2013 16:40    Post subject: Re: Tucson 2013  

Hi,
Scheelite is beautiful, but the löllingite delights me.
Thank you for sharing such beautiful pictures.
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PostPosted: Mar 08, 2013 03:21    Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2013  

The pyrite in quartz, is peruvian, Labor Teo, Mundo Nuevo.

Regards. Enrique Llorens.
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PostPosted: Mar 08, 2013 07:02    Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2013  

Just a small observation regarding prices.

For several years a dealer at the Munich show had a Wheal Gorland (UK) cuprite for sale. It was as I recall around 750 Euros. It was nice but not something that I wanted myself and was too much to make it worth me buying to resell. This year the price had dropped to about 400 Euros, I thought about it but didn't bother and later, when I went to have another look, it had gone. Too bad I thought, should of picked it up when I had the chance.

This year at Tucson I was shown a batch of British specimens, amongst them was the Wheal Gorland cuprite, still with the original dealers distinctive label. However, it was now priced at £12000. Quite an increase.

I don't want to moralise here, it is up to each individual to decide what a specimen is worth to them and then buy it if they want. But this was hardly a sleeper, it had been available for ages. So I just cite this as an example of flexible pricing in the mineral market.
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PostPosted: Mar 08, 2013 10:02    Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2013  

Thank you Enrique for your information.
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PostPosted: Mar 08, 2013 12:20    Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2013  

Post a photo of a pyrite from my collection to be in the same pocket.

Greetings. Enrique Llorens.



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PostPosted: Mar 09, 2013 11:49    Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2013  

There have been special/specific circumstances during the crystallisation of the pyrite in that particular pocket. Interesting!.
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