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PostPosted: Mar 23, 2013 04:44    Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo  

Crinoids for sure with that spoke pattern and stem. Sometimes fossils turn up in the most unusual places. I once found a trilobite in a quartzite of all places. Normally metamorphism would have destroyed the fossil for sure, but there it was. Third rule of geology: if it did happen it can happen!
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PostPosted: Mar 23, 2013 10:31    Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo  

Try this discussion, nurbo to get into some of those N England Carboniferous rugose corals:
https://www.discussfossils.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3326&PID=44798
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They show some nice images in cross-section and longitudinal section. Examples of these corals end up as pebbles on the Yorkshire beaches.

There are some fancy terms for coral growth forms, yours being "fasciculate" (corallites are cylindrical but not in contact). A subset of fasciculate is "phaceloid" (corallites are more or less parallel). Searching on "Lithostrotion" will yield some nice images.

Crinoid columnals do not have the spaced septae visible in your photos (the "spokes"), nor show comparable selective dissolution. Have fun!
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PostPosted: Mar 23, 2013 12:48    Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo  

I try not to use the word septae except on Sundays! Amazing the discussion these dead little things can inspire. Thanks Ru! This is fun.
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PostPosted: Mar 27, 2013 01:52    Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo  

Thanks for the help with that fossil, back to the minerals now.

Here is a before and a few after shots of a piece I picked up at Bakewell last year, obviously a Topaz from Topaz Mountain in Utah, Id been after one for a bit but I wanted a thumbnail and didnt want to pay much for it, I read someplace that thumbnails were hard to come by since the Topaz crystals tend to ping off the Rhyolite very easily, I saw this on a table for £4 (~$6) all it needed was a careful trim, the matrix is laced with platy crystals of Haematite, tiny Bixbyite cubes and rods of what may be Pseudobrookite all far too small to get photo's of with my current camera.



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 Description:
Before
Topaz on Rhyolite
Topaz Mountain, Juab County, Utah, USA.
Topaz to 10mm
 Viewed:  44251 Time(s)

Topaz Mtn Topaz (1).jpg



Topaz Mtn Topaz (2).jpg
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Topaz on Rhyolite
Topaz Mountain, Juab County, Utah, USA.
Topaz to 10mm
 Viewed:  44271 Time(s)

Topaz Mtn Topaz (2).jpg



Topaz Mtn Topaz (3).jpg
 Description:
Topaz on Rhyolite
Topaz Mountain, Juab County, Utah, USA.
Topaz to 10mm
 Viewed:  44213 Time(s)

Topaz Mtn Topaz (3).jpg



Topaz Mtn Topaz (4).jpg
 Description:
Topaz on Rhyolite
Topaz Mountain, Juab County, Utah, USA.
Topaz to 10mm
 Viewed:  44178 Time(s)

Topaz Mtn Topaz (4).jpg



Topaz Mtn Topaz (5).jpg
 Description:
Topaz on Rhyolite
Topaz Mountain, Juab County, Utah, USA.
Topaz to 10mm
 Viewed:  44219 Time(s)

Topaz Mtn Topaz (5).jpg



Topaz Mtn Topaz (6).jpg
 Description:
Topaz on Rhyolite
Topaz Mountain, Juab County, Utah, USA.
Topaz to 10mm
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PostPosted: Mar 27, 2013 16:15    Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo  

In https://www.mineral-forum.com/message-board/viewtopic.php?p=29841#29841 nurbo wrote:
...On the subject of Azurite I got one of these Azurite discs from Malbunka, Im a bit confused as to why one side is ridged and the other isnt? If they are flattened nodules that formed between layers of Kaolinite why arent both sides the same?

Dehne here.
The discs have crystallised in the bedding and slip planes of the kaolinite and during that process, despite the inclusion of the clay in the crystallisation process, there is a volume change in the space occupied by the disc and the clay. This means there are tensions set up in the azurite and the clay host during the space change process. The azurite surface is distorted during the crystallisation process and the majority of the discs over 2 to 3 cms diameter exhibit different sides. Ridge forms on azurite disc outer surfaces are common and are reminiscent of concretionary growth forms. Where the azurite is completely successful in pushing aside the enclosing clay during crystallisation, the azurite is of a very high quality but still in the form of conjoined flattened crystals.
So on both upper and lower surfaces of the azurite discs, there have been micro interactions taking place between the clay and azurite surfaces that result in different upper and lower surfaces. It is normal in the mine to find areas of discs/suns over a square metre that have exactly the same upper surfaces but different lower surfaces. (that may be a bit harder to explain).
Hence the discs are not being compressed/flattened but are simply expressing space competition forms. See Rocks and Minerals Nov-Dec 2012 azurite sun article for a wider perspective.
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PostPosted: Mar 29, 2013 02:47    Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo  

Thanks Dehne, how fascinating, are these discs all orientated in the same direction in the matrix? I had a look on mindat and all the photo's seem to show the discs in pretty much the same orientation, I was wondering (if it is possible) if one was to form at 90 degrees to the others how might that affect the ridged/flat structure of the surface?

Today Ive got my latest Wulfenite addition, Ive not seen many Wulfies from Mt Malosa before this one came my way a few weeks ago, I hope one day to upgrade it to a piece with terminated Quartz crystals instead of busted ones.
I also got this Calcite thumbnail from Brownley Hill.



1.jpg
 Description:
Stolzite - Wulfenite series
Zomba District, Malawi, Africa
55 x 25 mm
 Viewed:  44171 Time(s)

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 Description:
Stolzite - Wulfenite series
Zomba District, Malawi, Africa
FOV 30 x 20 mm approx
 Viewed:  44151 Time(s)

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3.jpg
 Description:
Stolzite - Wulfenite series
Zomba District, Malawi, Africa
FOV 25 x 15 mm approx
 Viewed:  44098 Time(s)

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2.jpg
 Description:
Calcite.
West High X Vein, Brownley Hill Mine, Nenthead, Alston Moor, Cumbria, England, UK.
30 x 25 mm
 Viewed:  44102 Time(s)

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3.jpg
 Description:
Calcite.
West High X Vein, Brownley Hill Mine, Nenthead, Alston Moor, Cumbria, England, UK.
30 x 25 mm, Calcite to 19 mm
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PostPosted: Mar 29, 2013 06:17    Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo  

In https://www.mineral-forum.com/message-board/files/1_803.jpg nurbo wrote:
Wulfenite on Quartz.
Mt Malosa, Zomba, Malawi, South East Africa.
55 x 25 mm

Hi Nurbo,

Wulfenite don't match Mt. Malosa (at least at my knowledge)
Are you sure it is from there?
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PostPosted: Mar 29, 2013 07:54    Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo  

Hi Jordi,
Im as sure as I can be with something i bought online from a seller i dont know personally. Mindat has ... https://www.mindat.org/photo-445503.html though that only says "Zomba district" . When I saw this piece for sale I checked online there are two references (Aside from the mindat one) to these samples on different website's, reading further into it though apparently they were available at Tucson as "Stolzite - Wulfenite series" labelled as being from Mt Malosa, though the other reference refers to them as "Zomba District" with no mention of Mt Malosa. Maybe another forum member can be more precise?
In the meantime If you want to change it to,"Stolzite - Wulfenite series. Zomba District, Malawi Africa" thats is probably the most accurate at the present time.
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PostPosted: Mar 29, 2013 08:37    Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo  

nurbo wrote:
In the meantime If you want to change it to,"Stolzite - Wulfenite series. Zomba District, Malawi Africa" thats is probably the most accurate at the present time.

Done Nurbo, but as you can see the Wulfenite-Stolzite series are not listed in MIndat for Zomba District -> https://www.mindat.org/loc-125829.html and as the same text of the photo https://www.mindat.org/photo-445503.html says:

Note: The mineral species Wulfenite is not listed in our database for this locality. This specimen may be misidentified or the mindat list of minerals at this locality may be incomplete.

so, probably better to wait for more opinions.... Knut? ;-)
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PostPosted: Apr 03, 2013 00:57    Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo  

re the Wulfenite-Stolzite
I messaged the dealer I bought it from and I should be getting a copy of the Xrd he had done sometime soon, he also says the locality is definitely Mt Malosa too.

In the meantime ... Barstows Trench Pyromorphite, what a colour..



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 Description:
Pyromorphite.
Barstows Trench, Roughton Gill, Caldbeck Fells, Cumbria, England, UK.
60 x 30 mm
 Viewed:  44023 Time(s)

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 Description:
Pyromorphite.
Barstows Trench, Roughton Gill, Caldbeck Fells, Cumbria, England, UK.
Pyromorphite to 4 mm
 Viewed:  43956 Time(s)

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 Description:
Pyromorphite.
Barstows Trench, Roughton Gill, Caldbeck Fells, Cumbria, England, UK.
Pyromorphite to 4 mm
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PostPosted: Apr 03, 2013 02:52    Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo  

Hi Nurbo. I like this photo close 1.jpg. Thanks for showing.
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PostPosted: Apr 06, 2013 01:10    Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo  

Cheers Pierre, I didnt realise these pictures are of the same area of the sample.

Here is the analysis of the Malawi piece ...

WO3 .0115 wt. %
MoO3 38.512
P2O5 0.088
SiO2 0.076
Al2O3 0.055
PbO 59.881
FeO 0.114
MgO 0.022
CaO 0.133
MnO 0.009

the d-spacings and intensities

4.958 (15)
3.224 (100)
2.721 (35)
2.030 (20)
2.019 (35)
1.790 (20)
1.661 (25)

So it looks like Wulfenite after all.
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PostPosted: Apr 09, 2013 00:18    Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo  

This was a swine to photograph, perfect Apophylite's on Heulandite with some balls and mats of what is probably Mordenite.


1.jpg
 Description:
Apophylite on red Heulandite.
Nasik, Maharastra, India.
55 x 30 mm
 Viewed:  43788 Time(s)

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4.jpg
 Description:
Apophylite on red Heulandite.
Nasik, Maharastra, India.
FOV 20 x 15 approx
 Viewed:  43736 Time(s)

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5.jpg
 Description:
Apophylite on red Heulandite.
Nasik, Maharastra, India.
Apophylite to 35 mm
 Viewed:  43782 Time(s)

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6.jpg
 Description:
Apophylite on red Heulandite.
Nasik, Maharastra, India.
FOV 30 x 25 mm approx
 Viewed:  43755 Time(s)

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7.jpg
 Description:
Apophylite on red Heulandite.
Nasik, Maharastra, India.
FOV 25 x 20 mm approx
 Viewed:  43774 Time(s)

7.jpg



8.jpg
 Description:
Apophylite on red Heulandite.
Nasik, Maharastra, India.
FOV 40 x 25 mm approx
 Viewed:  43773 Time(s)

8.jpg



9.jpg
 Description:
Apophylite on red Heulandite.
Nasik, Maharastra, India.
FOV 30 x 20 mm approx
 Viewed:  43761 Time(s)

9.jpg



10.jpg
 Description:
Apophylite on red Heulandite.
Nasik, Maharastra, India.
FOV 20 x 15 mm approx
 Viewed:  43743 Time(s)

10.jpg



12.jpg
 Description:
Apophylite on red Heulandite.
Nasik, Maharastra, India.
FOV 30 x 20 mm approx.
 Viewed:  43725 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Apr 16, 2013 00:53    Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo  

I just got this Millerite on/in Calcite, what an interesting piece it is.


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 Description:
Millerite in and on Calcite.
Hockley Edge, Near Ashover, Derbyshire, England, UK.
80 x 60 x 50 mm
 Viewed:  43619 Time(s)

millerite (1).jpg



millerite (2).jpg
 Description:
Millerite in and on Calcite.
Hockley Edge, Near Ashover, Derbyshire, England, UK.
FOV 20 x 20 mm approx
 Viewed:  43625 Time(s)

millerite (2).jpg



millerite (3).jpg
 Description:
Millerite in and on Calcite.
Hockley Edge, Near Ashover, Derbyshire, England, UK.
FOV 30 x 25 mm approx
 Viewed:  43633 Time(s)

millerite (3).jpg



millerite (4).jpg
 Description:
Millerite in and on Calcite.
Hockley Edge, Near Ashover, Derbyshire, England, UK.
FOV 25 x 25 mm approx
 Viewed:  43609 Time(s)

millerite (4).jpg



millerite (5).jpg
 Description:
Millerite in and on Calcite.
Hockley Edge, Near Ashover, Derbyshire, England, UK.
FOV 20 x 17 mm approx
 Viewed:  43648 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Apr 19, 2013 02:09    Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo  

This Sphalerite plate comes from the Hydraulic Shaft at the Smallcleugh mine.


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 Description:
Sphalerite.
Hydraulic Shaft, Smallcleugh Mine, Alston Moor, Cumbria, England, UK.
150 x 120 x 30 mm
 Viewed:  43480 Time(s)

smallcleugh sphalerite plate (1).jpg



smallcleugh sphalerite plate (2).jpg
 Description:
Sphalerite.
Hydraulic Shaft, Smallcleugh Mine, Alston Moor, Cumbria, England, UK
FOV 35 x 40 mm approx.
 Viewed:  43492 Time(s)

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smallcleugh sphalerite plate (3).jpg
 Description:
Sphalerite.
Hydraulic Shaft, Smallcleugh Mine, Alston Moor, Cumbria, England, UK
FOV 30 x 25 mm approx.
 Viewed:  43542 Time(s)

smallcleugh sphalerite plate (3).jpg



smallcleugh sphalerite plate (5).jpg
 Description:
Sphalerite.
Hydraulic Shaft, Smallcleugh Mine, Alston Moor, Cumbria, England, UK
FOV 40 x 40 mm
 Viewed:  43477 Time(s)

smallcleugh sphalerite plate (5).jpg



smallcleugh sphalerite plate (7).jpg
 Description:
Sphalerite.
Hydraulic Shaft, Smallcleugh Mine, Alston Moor, Cumbria, England, UK
FOV 45 x 45 mm approx
 Viewed:  43494 Time(s)

smallcleugh sphalerite plate (7).jpg



smallcleugh sphalerite plate (6).jpg
 Description:
Sphalerite.
Hydraulic Shaft, Smallcleugh Mine, Alston Moor, Cumbria, England, UK.
FOV 30 x 30 mm approx
 Viewed:  43515 Time(s)

smallcleugh sphalerite plate (6).jpg



smallcleugh sphalerite plate (8).jpg
 Description:
Sphalerite.
Hydraulic Shaft, Smallcleugh Mine, Alston Moor, Cumbria, England, UK
120 x 30 mm.
 Viewed:  43521 Time(s)

smallcleugh sphalerite plate (8).jpg



smallcleugh sphalerite plate (9).jpg
 Description:
Sphalerite.
Hydraulic Shaft, Smallcleugh Mine, Alston Moor, Cumbria, England, UK
150 x 120 x 30 mm.
 Viewed:  43515 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Jun 22, 2013 01:16    Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo  

This is the first piece from the Saindak Cu deposit Ive ever seen,


a.jpg
 Description:
Wulfenite and Malachite.
Saindak Cu Deposit, Chagai, Baluchistan, Pakistan.
110 x 65 mm
 Viewed:  42726 Time(s)

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b.jpg
 Description:
Wulfenite and Malachite.
Saindak Cu Deposit, Chagai, Baluchistan, Pakistan.
Wulfenite to 5 mm
 Viewed:  42697 Time(s)

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d.jpg
 Description:
Wulfenite and Malachite.
Saindak Cu Deposit, Chagai, Baluchistan, Pakistan.
Wulfenite to 5 mm
 Viewed:  42689 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Jul 03, 2013 02:27    Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo  

Here are a couple of Congolese pieces.


Malachite octahedrons Congo (1).jpg
 Description:
Malachite
Katanga, Democratic Republic of Congo..
50 x 40 mm
 Viewed:  42591 Time(s)

Malachite octahedrons Congo (1).jpg



Malachite octahedrons Congo (2).jpg
 Description:
Malachite
Katanga, Democratic Republic of Congo..
Malachite to 6 mm
 Viewed:  42597 Time(s)

Malachite octahedrons Congo (2).jpg



Malachite octahedrons Congo (3).jpg
 Description:
Malachite
Katanga, Democratic Republic of Congo..
Malachite to 6 mm
 Viewed:  42634 Time(s)

Malachite octahedrons Congo (3).jpg



Malachite octahedrons Congo (4).jpg
 Description:
Malachite
Katanga, Democratic Republic of Congo.
Malachite to 7 mm
 Viewed:  42619 Time(s)

Malachite octahedrons Congo (4).jpg



Chrysocolla Congo (1).jpg
 Description:
Chrysocolla., Democratic Republic of Congo.
62 x 30 mm
 Viewed:  42590 Time(s)

Chrysocolla Congo (1).jpg



Chrysocolla Congo (3).jpg
 Description:
Chrysocolla.
Democratic Republic of Congo.
FOV 30 x 30 mm
 Viewed:  42590 Time(s)

Chrysocolla Congo (3).jpg



Chrysocolla Congo (2).jpg
 Description:
Chrysocolla.
Democratic Republic of Congo.
FOV 30 x 20 mm
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PostPosted: Jul 12, 2013 01:15    Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo  

Pyromorphite from "Cumberland", J R Gregory specimen, with original label and box, the address on the label dates it to 1866 - 1874.


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 Description:
Pyromorphite
Cumberland, England, UK.
25 x 25 x 20 mm
 Viewed:  42411 Time(s)

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b.jpg
 Description:
Pyromorphite
Cumberland, England, UK.
25 x 25 x 20 mm
 Viewed:  42348 Time(s)

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c.jpg
 Description:
Pyromorphite
Cumberland, England, UK.
FOV 15 x 12 mm approx
 Viewed:  42324 Time(s)

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 Description:
Pyromorphite
Cumberland, England, UK.
FOV 18 x 18 mm approx
 Viewed:  42288 Time(s)

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The Label
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PostPosted: Jul 14, 2013 16:36    Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo  

Here are some pictures I did of a Fluorite from the Greenbank days of Rogerley Mine.


a.jpg
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Fluorite, Galena, cerussite (?)
Rogerley Mine, Weardale, Co Durham, England, UK.
Fluorite to 7 mm
 Viewed:  42226 Time(s)

a.jpg



rog (1).jpg
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In UV light
Fluorite, Galena, cerussite (?)
Rogerley Mine, Weardale, Co Durham, England, UK.
Fluorite to 7 mm
 Viewed:  42235 Time(s)

rog (1).jpg



rog (2).jpg
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In sunlight
Fluorite, Galena, cerussite (?)
Rogerley Mine, Weardale, Co Durham, England, UK.
Fluorite to 7 mm
 Viewed:  42242 Time(s)

rog (2).jpg



rog (3).jpg
 Description:
indoor light
Fluorite, Galena, cerussite (?)
Rogerley Mine, Weardale, Co Durham, England, UK.
Fluorite to 7 mm
 Viewed:  42245 Time(s)

rog (3).jpg


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PostPosted: Jul 15, 2013 13:14    Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo  

Very nice old pyromorphite ( https://www.mineral-forum.com/message-board/viewtopic.php?p=32708#32708 )

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