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PostPosted: Dec 03, 2015 09:45    Post subject: "H. Deisinger" Collection  

I am not sure if this is the correct sub-forum or not, but I thought I would try and see if any of our German (Tobi and Gerhard) or Austrian (Martin Rich) FMF Members could try and help me here (any help would be appreciated actually). I also apologize ahead of time if I have misspelled any German words and if I accidentally messed up posting pictures on the forum.

I am trying to find information about a former German (or Austrian?) mineral collector / geologist. I have several handwritten labels from specimens that were stated as being from the “H. Deisinger” collection. All the specimens that I have acquired from this collection were being offered by Jim Mcewan (Lehigh Minerals). Most of the specimens that were offered were predominantly German specimens, but the collection also had a wide variety of other worldwide minerals as well.

I have been trying to find some background information on “H. Deisinger” with limited success, as his name does not appear on the Mineralogical Record label archive.

The only lead I have for this individual is a cited reference from the US Department of the Interior Geological Survey. The reference is the bibliography file from the Zeolite Mineral Group, published in 1982 by Barry Hayhurst and Richard Mathias. The record is available online as a PDF. The citation is as follows (Note that there were no special characters on typewriters!) :

Muller, Von Ulrich, and Deisinger, Heinz, 1971, Strontium-Thomsonit aus dem Robbergbasalt von Robdorf bei Darmstadt: Aufschluss, vol. 22, pp. 145-148

I believe that “H. Deisinger” the collector is in fact, the cited Heinz Deisinger in that article.

Since I don’t speak any German, finding the literature that was cited and then trying to translate it would be extremely difficult for me.

On Mindat, I got a response from “Ger Steinn” (2015)

“The article you cited was published in the semi-scientific and non-public magazine “Der Aufschluss”. This magazine is only delivered to members of the biggest german mineralogical/geological association ‘Vereinigung der Freunde der Mineralogie und Geologie e.v.’ “

“At their website you can search for the table of contents from their early years 1950-1969. Unfortunately, later years are not available yet.”

“There is only one article of Mr. H. Deisinger regarding a location in Austria, published in 1968”

Deisinger, H. 1968, Der Auernig bei Mallnitz - einst und heute: Aufschluss, v. 19 (3), s. 68 [The Auernig near Mallnitz – once and today]

I am providing some pictures of the labels and the minerals as a chance that maybe somebody could give me some more background information on this collector. Thanks!

References cited:

Hayhurst, B., and Mathias, R.,1982, Zeolite mineral group bibliography: U.S. Department of the Interior Geological Survey, Open-file Report 82-715.



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 Mineral: Stibnite
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Baia Sprie Mine, Baia Sprie, Maramures, Romania
 Dimensions: 10 cm x 5 cm x 5 cm
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This is a cabinet specimen of thin needlelike crystals of stibnite on a calcite matrix from Baia Sprie, Maramures County, Romania. This specimen was in the former collection of “H. Deisinger” (Heinz Deisinger?).
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 Mineral: Marcasite, Calcite
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Christiane Mine, Adorf, Diemelsee, Hesse/Hessen, Germany
 Dimensions: 9 cm x 4 cm x 6 cm
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This is a cabinet specimen of marcasite with opaque calcite crystals from the Christiane Mine, Hesse, Germany. According to the Mindat.org page for this locality, the Christiane Mine was a former iron mine that was abandoned in 1963. This specimen was formerly in the collection of “H. Deisinger” (Heinz Deisinger?).
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 Mineral: Stilbite - Ca, Heulandite - Ca
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St. Andreasberg, St. Andreasberg mining area, Goslar District, Harz, Lower Saxony/Niedersachsen, Germany
 Dimensions: 6.3 cm x 3.4 cm x 6 cm
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This is a small cabinet specimen of Stilbite-Ca and Heulandite-Ca from the St. Andreasburg District, Harz, Lower Saxony, Germany. This specimen was in the former collection of “H. Deisinger” (Heinz Deisinger?).When most people think of zeolite minerals, the quarries of India, New Jersey, United States, and the Pacific northwest come readily to mind. Germany however has also produced zeolites as well, but they were never common.
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 Mineral: Quartz, Baryte
 Locality:
Schneeberg District, Erzgebirge, Saxony/Sachsen, Germany
 Dimensions: 6.7 cm x 6.8 cm x 3.5 cm
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This is a small cabinet specimen of quartz and baryte from the Schneeberg District, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany. This specimen was in the former collection of “H. Deisinger” (Heinz Deisinger?).

This specimen shows a quartz druse over existing baryte crystals. I haven’t seen very many specimens from this locality offered at shows, so I am assuming that this is a fairly uncommon association from this locality. Many of the crystals do show damage, but it is interesting nonetheless.
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PostPosted: Dec 03, 2015 10:38    Post subject: Re: "H. Deisinger" Collection  

The Deisinger collection was sold basically by Dave Bunk in Tucson 2009 under the name of "Deisinger collection of Darmstadt".

I have no more infos. Dave or someone related with his business could know more about this collection.
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PostPosted: Dec 03, 2015 11:20    Post subject: Re: "H. Deisinger" Collection  

Thank you Jordi!!

I will try contacting Dave Bunk to see if he has any more information or maybe ask if he could write a reply on this forum.
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PostPosted: Aug 20, 2016 02:13    Post subject: Re: "H. Deisinger" Collection  

Browsing this thread, I just realized that I also own a Deisinger label and ex. specimen. but unfortunately I don't have further information on Deisinger, I hope Dave Bunk could help you in the meantime?


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 Mineral: Pyromorphite
 Locality:
Beim Stollen Mine, Grafenwöhr, Neustadt a.d.Waldnaab, Upper Palatinate, Bavaria/Bayern, Germany
 Dimensions: Specimen size 5,5 cm
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Ex. H. Deisinger collection
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 Mineral: Pyromorphite
 Locality:
Beim Stollen Mine, Grafenwöhr, Neustadt a.d.Waldnaab, Upper Palatinate, Bavaria/Bayern, Germany
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Ex. H. Deisinger collection
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PostPosted: Aug 24, 2016 07:20    Post subject: Re: "H. Deisinger" Collection  

I emailed Dave Bunk again and he responded last night, I thought I would share the email I received:

Hello Jamison,

Sorry I never got back with you on this. I purchased the collection with Stefan Stolte of Frankfurt, and I just spoke with him about it. Unfortunately he has no pertinent information for you. It sounds like it might be the same guy that wrote the article you’re referencing, but I can’t confirm that.

Sorry I can’t be of more help to you. I certainly value provenance on specimens as well.

Dave

and Tobi...that is very nice pyromorphite by the way...
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