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PostPosted: Apr 30, 2007 19:53    Post subject: Misterious names  

I have encountered in a spanish book a couple of mineral names I can't find in any spanish dictionary. It is a novel and the names are supposed to be ancient and not scientific, but they are real, not inventions of the author. I wonder if somebody has heard of them and if there are scientific names for them.
Here they are: marata, timbaino, himenera and tarmicon (the last one is mentioned, it seems, in the works of Cervantes).
Any suggestion is welcome, thank you.
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PostPosted: May 01, 2007 04:44    Post subject: Mysterious names  

Dear Joao:

They are all totally new to me. I do not believe that they have any connection to real minerals, but Jordi or Carles (both being Spanish) would be better authorities.

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PostPosted: May 01, 2007 05:15    Post subject: misterious names  

Good morning

Sory I found a site that list names even in old spanish. But unable to post, even changing . by (dot).
If moderators help, I gladly will pass. If better for the site, I could send you it privately.

By the way, Marata is the name of a small town that belongs to Les Franqueses del Vallés, near Granollers, in el Valllés, Barcelona, Spain.

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PostPosted: May 01, 2007 05:31    Post subject: misterious names  

Hi all,

This is the link that Lluis was talking about:

https://www.cervantesvirtual.com/servlet/SirveObras/01604185103474960770035/p0000002.htm

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PostPosted: May 02, 2007 03:26    Post subject: misterious names  

About the old mineral names you propose, I didn’t found any information except, I believe, marata.
On ancient lapidaries erroneous transcriptions were usual, especially thinking that most of the vocabulary proceed from oriental languages.
Marata, probably, is the same as marakata or maharatna (from Indian. Ratna signifies precious object or talisman). The name seem to br transformed as meracata, and lately meracda, in European lapidaries. The name meracda appears in an anonymous manuscript lapidary from XV century (edited by Joan Gili and published by The Dolphin Book Co., Oxford, in 1977).
Meracda, marakata and maharatna seem to be the same: emerald.
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PostPosted: May 02, 2007 06:19    Post subject: marata  

Yes, marata is a sort of magic stone in a novel I am currently translating from Spanish. Thank you.
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PostPosted: May 03, 2007 14:04    Post subject: tarmicon  

Thanks, tarmicon is referred in that page.
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