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Fiebre Verde

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Posted: Jul 29, 2018 15:48 Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde - Chivor (#686) |
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Elongated crystal from Chivor with a complex termination.
Crystal has an unusual hollow cavity down through the upper quarter (5mm).
The void inside the crystal looks like a real crystal - so this is clearly a negative crystal.
The cause of this negative-crystal cavity (crystal-shaped hollow cavity) is unclear to me.
Schmetzer & al. (2011), Chemical and growth zoning in trapiche tourmaline from Zambia – a re-evaluation, JoG, Vol 32, No.5-8
suggest 2 possibilities
1) Trapping of a solid inclusion and subsequent blocking of crystal growth with the formation of a growth induced, elongated void in the direction of crystal growth (arrow) subsequent to trapping of the small mineral grain
2) Trapping of a solid inclusion, movement of the trapped small mineral grain in the direction of the arrow and of the growing crystal face and formation of a growth induced, elongated void in the wake of the moving mineral grain, a mechanism repeated in several steps
Are any of you aware of any other possible explanation?
Mineral: | Beryl (variety emerald) |
Locality: | Chivor mining district, El Oriente Mine, Municipio Chivor, Eastern Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia |  |
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Mineral: | Beryl (variety emerald) |
Locality: | Chivor mining district, El Oriente Mine, Municipio Chivor, Eastern Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia |  |
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Mineral: | Beryl (variety emerald) |
Locality: | Chivor mining district, El Oriente Mine, Municipio Chivor, Eastern Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia |  |
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Roger Warin

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Posted: Jul 29, 2018 23:59 Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde |
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Hi Fiebre Verde,
You said “The cause of this crystal-shaped hollow cavity is unclear to me.”
I think it would be a fluid inclusion, a liquid with maybe even a third gaseous phase (CO2 ?), which has locally prohibited growth (in hydrothermal conditions).
Under these conditions, the crystal grows by forming faces whose indices are consistent with inverted growth.
Subsequently, fluid inclusion escaped.
A solid inclusion would give foreign faces to beryl and would have dropped impurities, I believe.
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Fiebre Verde

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Posted: Jul 30, 2018 07:34 Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde |
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Roger Warin wrote: | Hi Fiebre Verde,
You said “The cause of this crystal-shaped hollow cavity is unclear to me.”
I think it would be a fluid inclusion, a liquid with maybe even a third gaseous phase (CO2 ?), which has locally prohibited growth (in hydrothermal conditions).
Under these conditions, the crystal grows by forming faces whose indices are consistent with inverted growth.
Subsequently, fluid inclusion escaped.
A solid inclusion would give foreign faces to beryl and would have dropped impurities, I believe. |
Hello Roger
I overlooked the geometry aspect of the cavity - faces and overall shape.
I didn't consider the possibility of a trapped fluid inclusion - even less gas inclusion - for being the root cause of the cavity.
Need to become more acquainted with the basic concepts in the physics of crystal growth and the properties of crystal surfaces!
Thanks for your insights Roger.
Gérard
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Roger Warin

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Posted: Jul 30, 2018 08:50 Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde |
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OK, thank you Gerard.
Roger.
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Roger Warin

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Posted: Jul 30, 2018 22:46 Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde |
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Hi Gérard,
Summer nights may be good for insomnia.
Why not think about minerals?
I compared the presence of a cavity in your emerald to the texture of the beryl variety heliodor of Ukraine.
These negative facets are not growth figures, but on the contrary they result from an inverse process, namely dissolution in a hydrothermal medium at the end of growth.
The kinetics of this dissolution depends on the population density of the reticular planes.
These figures are not in relief, but in negative, as in an intaglio. These are hoppers (stairs cavities).
Mineral: | Beryl, var. Heliodor |
Locality: | Khoroshiv (Volodarsk-Volynskii), Zhytomyr Oblast, Ukraine |  |
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Fiebre Verde

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Posted: Jul 31, 2018 07:52 Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde |
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Roger Warin wrote: | Hi Gérard,
Summer nights may be good for insomnia.
Why not think about minerals?
I compared the presence of a cavity in your emerald to the texture of the beryl variety heliodor of Ukraine.
These negative facets are not growth figures, but on the contrary they result from an inverse process, namely dissolution in a hydrothermal medium at the end of growth.
The kinetics of this dissolution depends on the population density of the reticular planes.
These figures are not in relief, but in negative, as in an intaglio. These are hoppers (stairs cavities). |
Hello Roger,
Thank you for posting this superb example of post-crystallization dissolution!
I know that the quality of the images I posted is not optimal but they all show strong linear features in the c-axis direction in relation with the cavity faces.
Am afraid I don’t have the proper equipment to take close up pictures of these features but I will give it another try.
From what I understand, it’s not always possible to positively attribute patterns and figures to dissolution kinetics or growth kinetics – even less when it’s the result of a combination of both processes. Quite a fascinating topic!
Gérard
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Fiebre Verde

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Posted: Aug 01, 2018 16:40 Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde - Cunas (#695) |
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Beryl prism solidly attached to a calcite crystal.
Dissolution patterns can be seen on all faces.
Mineral: | Beryl (variety emerald), Calcite |
Locality: | La Pita mining district, Cunas Mine, Municipio Maripí, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia |  |
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Dimensions: | 33x26x18mm (calcite xl), xls=8.5 & 4mm |
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Mineral: | Beryl (variety emerald), Calcite |
Locality: | La Pita mining district, Cunas Mine, Municipio Maripí, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia |  |
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Mineral: | Beryl (variety emerald), Calcite |
Locality: | La Pita mining district, Cunas Mine, Municipio Maripí, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia |  |
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Mineral: | Beryl (variety emerald), Calcite |
Locality: | La Pita mining district, Cunas Mine, Municipio Maripí, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia |  |
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Mineral: | Beryl (variety emerald), Calcite |
Locality: | La Pita mining district, Cunas Mine, Municipio Maripí, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia |  |
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Mineral: | Beryl (variety emerald), Calcite |
Locality: | La Pita mining district, Cunas Mine, Municipio Maripí, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia |  |
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Dimensions: | 33x26x18mm (calcite xl), xls=8.5 & 4mm |
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Fiebre Verde

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Posted: Aug 19, 2018 16:11 Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde - Coscuez (#708) |
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Lustrous dolomite, calcite, pyrite, on black shale.
Mineral: | Beryl (variety emerald), Calcite, Dolomite, Pyrite |
Locality: | Coscuez mining district, Municipio San Pablo de Borbur, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia |  |
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Dimensions: | 46x68x26mm, xl=11mm |
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Mineral: | Beryl (variety emerald), Calcite, Dolomite, Pyrite |
Locality: | Coscuez mining district, Municipio San Pablo de Borbur, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia |  |
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Dimensions: | 46x68x26mm, xl=11mm |
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Mineral: | Beryl (variety emerald), Calcite, Dolomite, Pyrite |
Locality: | Coscuez mining district, Municipio San Pablo de Borbur, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia |  |
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Dimensions: | 46x68x26mm, xl=11mm |
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Posted: Aug 25, 2018 14:18 Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde - Chivor (#706) |
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Semi-transparent double terminated crystal which exhibits many internal cracks and fractures.
Mineral: | Beryl (variety emerald), Calcite, Pyrite |
Locality: | Chivor mining district, Municipio Chivor, Eastern Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia |  |
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Dimensions: | 20x20x13mm, xl=20mm |
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Fiebre Verde

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Posted: Sep 02, 2018 15:17 Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde - Coscuez (#654) |
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Aggregate of double terminated crystals.
The white calcite, the clear quartz, the small pyrite nodules, and the crumbly grey shale are all in the back of the aggregate (not seen in the photo).
Mineral: | Beryl (variety emerald), Calcite, Quartz, Pyrite |
Locality: | Coscuez mining district, Municipio San Pablo de Borbur, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia |  |
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Dimensions: | 39x17x22mm |
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Posted: Sep 06, 2018 15:28 Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde - La Pita (#343) |
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Group of 10+ grass green crystals.
Host rock is a bedded limestone.
Mineral: | Beryl (variety emerald), Calcite, Pyrite |
Locality: | La Pita mining district, Municipio Maripí, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia |  |
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Dimensions: | 59x40x41mm, largest xl=20mm |
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Posted: Sep 15, 2018 15:23 Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde - Muzo (#703) |
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Beryl crystal partly encapsulated in a calcite shell.
Host rock is black shale.
Mineral: | Beryl (variety emerald), Calcite |
Locality: | Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia |  |
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Dimensions: | 45x47x32mm, xl=15mm |
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Mineral: | Beryl (variety emerald), Calcite |
Locality: | Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia |  |
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Mineral: | Beryl (variety emerald), Calcite |
Locality: | Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia |  |
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Mineral: | Beryl (variety emerald), Calcite |
Locality: | Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia |  |
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Posted: Sep 22, 2018 15:56 Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde - Muzo (#707) |
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Small beryl crystal has grown on top of the large one.
Mineral: | Beryl (variety emerald) |
Locality: | Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia |  |
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Dimensions: | xl=5.5x7x4.5mm |
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Mineral: | Beryl (variety emerald) |
Locality: | Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia |  |
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Posted: Oct 03, 2018 15:11 Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde - Chivor (#710] |
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Beryl crystal has a complex pyramidal termination.
Mineral: | Beryl (variety emerald) |
Locality: | Chivor mining district, Municipio Chivor, Eastern Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia |  |
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Dimensions: | 4x10mm |
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Mineral: | Beryl (variety emerald) |
Locality: | Chivor mining district, Municipio Chivor, Eastern Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia |  |
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Posted: Oct 07, 2018 04:09 Post subject: Re: Collection of Fiebre Verde |
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Just too good to be true! Especially the one with the "baby" crystal attached to its top - what a beauty!
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