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PostPosted: Feb 15, 2019 05:21    Post subject: Re: Franjungle Collection  

Hi Pierre.

I´m sure that these Muzo´s examples are coming from emerald mining tunnels.

I have some from different localities:

• Municipio Suaita, Santander Department: the crystals come from quartz outcrops or mining operations.
• Municipio La Belleza, Santander: the quartz crystals come from quartz outcrops.
• Municipio Bolívar, Santander: the crystals also come mainly from quartz outcrops, but this is a very extensive municipality and some specimens could come from gold mines.
• Municipio Buriticá, Antioquia Department: my quartz crystals come from gold mining sites. These crystals are the junk of the gold tunnels and the miners don´t take care. You´ll see when i unpack them.
• Municipio Segovia, Antioquia Departament: although the quartz crystals i have come from a gold mining sites, these clusters are clean an usually well terminated.


I add a curious link where you can see some of the colombian methods to get crystals, unlawful in this case. Sorry, it is in spanish but you could surely understand.

Colombian Cop capture band called “The Quartzes” : They used homemade explosives.

The Municipio Florián is neighbour the La Belleza and it´s nearby Bolívar, the south of the Santander Department.

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PostPosted: Feb 15, 2019 07:28    Post subject: Re: Franjungle Collection  

franjungle wrote:
Hi Pierre.

I´m sure that these Muzo´s examples are coming from emerald mining tunnels.

I have some from different localities:

• Municipio Suaita, Santander Department: the crystals come from quartz outcrops or mining operations.
• Municipio La Belleza, Santander: the quartz crystals come from quartz outcrops.
• Municipio Bolívar, Santander: the crystals also come mainly from quartz outcrops, but this is a very extensive municipality and some specimens could come from a gold mines.
• Municipio Buriticá, Antioquia Department: my quartz crystals come from gold mining sites. These crystals are the junk of the gold tunnels and the miners don´t take care. You´ll see when i unpack them.
• Municipio Segovia, Antioquia Departament: although the quartz crystals i have come from a gold mining sites, these clusters are clean an usually well terminated.


I add a curious link where you can see some of the colombian methods to get crystals, unlawful in this case. Sorry, it is in spanish but you could surely understand.

Colombian Cop capture band called “The Quartzes” : They used homemade explosives.

The Municipio Florián is neighbour the La Belleza and it´s nearby Bolívar, the south of the Santander Department.

Regards.


Thank you for that interesting and detailed answer. On the one hand I feel sorry for these poor small miners. I also feel very privileged to be able to mine where no one else does and with much less effort.

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PostPosted: Feb 15, 2019 08:21    Post subject: Re: Franjungle Collection  

Pierre Joubert wrote:
franjungle wrote:
Hi Pierre.

I´m sure that these Muzo´s examples are coming from emerald mining tunnels.

I have some from different localities:

• Municipio Suaita, Santander Department: the crystals come from quartz outcrops or mining operations.
• Municipio La Belleza, Santander: the quartz crystals come from quartz outcrops.
• Municipio Bolívar, Santander: the crystals also come mainly from quartz outcrops, but this is a very extensive municipality and some specimens could come from gold mines.
• Municipio Buriticá, Antioquia Department: my quartz crystals come from gold mining sites. These crystals are the junk of the gold tunnels and the miners don´t take care. You´ll see when i unpack them.
• Municipio Segovia, Antioquia Departament: although the quartz crystals i have come from a gold mining sites, these clusters are clean an usually well terminated.


I add a curious link where you can see some of the colombian methods to get crystals, unlawful in this case. Sorry, it is in spanish but you could surely understand.

Colombian Cop capture band called “The Quartzes” : They used homemade explosives.

The Municipio Florián is neighbour the La Belleza and it´s nearby Bolívar, the south of the Santander Department.

Regards.


Thank you for that interesting and detailed answer. On the one hand I feel sorry for these poor small miners. I also feel very privileged to be able to mine where no one else does and with much less effort.


I can only second what Franjungle said.
In Muzo, miners (legal or illegal) look first for emeralds because that's how they make a living.
The most important by-product is parisite which can fetch record prices depending on the quality.
Muzo quartz falls well behind emerald and parisite as it is overshadowed by the nearby Peñas Blancas and Santander quartz localities.
Gérard
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PostPosted: Feb 16, 2019 07:59    Post subject: Re: Franjungle Collection  

I can´t believe it but I've forgotten the classic locality of Peñas Blancas. Thanks Gérard.

Peñas Blancas near Muzo, in Boyacá Department, is a big emerald mining site also lately known by the green core translucent fluorites.

I have, in my view, a special and nice quartz from this mine.
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PostPosted: Feb 17, 2019 07:08    Post subject: Re: Franjungle Collection  

Quartz from Muzo, Boyacá Department, Colombia. (Nº-18).

Cluster with two main crystals that looks like bride and groom.



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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 77mm x 56mm x 33mm
 Description:
 Viewed:  3564 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 77mm x 56mm x 33mm
 Description:
 Viewed:  3566 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 77mm x 56mm x 33mm
 Description:
Cluster with two main crystals that looks like bride and groom. (Nº-18).
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PostPosted: Feb 20, 2019 04:41    Post subject: Re: Franjungle Collection  

Calcite from Útica, Gualivá, Cundinamarca Department, Colombia.

I saw with the dealer´s torch a marked orange fluorescence in this Calcite specimen, but at my home with the 395nm torch i´ve obtained a pink reaction.



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 Mineral: Calcite
 Locality:
Municipio Útica, Gualivá Province, Cundinamarca Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 62mm x 57mm x 41 mm
 Description:
Calcite pseudo cube
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 Mineral: Calcite
 Locality:
Municipio Útica, Gualivá Province, Cundinamarca Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 62mm x 57mm x 41 mm
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 Viewed:  3470 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Calcite
 Locality:
Municipio Útica, Gualivá Province, Cundinamarca Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 62mm x 57mm x 41 mm
 Description:
I saw with the dealer´s torch a marked orange fluorescence in this Calcite specimen, but at my home with the 395nm torch i´ve obtained a pink reaction.
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PostPosted: Feb 23, 2019 10:10    Post subject: Re: Franjungle Collection  

Quartz and Anatase from La Belleza, Vélez, Santander Department, Colombia. (Nº-38).

Transparent Quartz crystal with a white phantom showing the pyramidal internal faces, a largest face and a big pale yellow Anatase as inclusión forming an eight faced tetragonal bi-pyramid.



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 Mineral: Quartz and Anatase
 Locality:
Municipio La Belleza, Vélez Province, Santander Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 36mm x 61mm x 31mm
 Description:
(Nº-38).
 Viewed:  3403 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Quartz and Anatase
 Locality:
Municipio La Belleza, Vélez Province, Santander Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 36mm x 61mm x 31mm
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 Viewed:  3402 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Quartz and Anatase
 Locality:
Municipio La Belleza, Vélez Province, Santander Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 36mm x 61mm x 31mm
 Description:
Transparent Quartz crystal with a white phantom showing the pyramidal internal faces, a largest face and a big pale yellow Anatase as inclusión forming an eight faced tetragonal bi-pyramid. (Nº-38).
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PostPosted: Feb 26, 2019 12:46    Post subject: Re: Franjungle Collection  

Quartz from Bolívar, Vélez, Santander Department, Colombia. (Nº-39).

Couple of crossed translucent Quartz crystals. The main has inclusions and a fracture like a shiny cloud.
In the label the weight: 210 gr.



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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Municipio Bolívar, Vélez Province, Santander Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 82mm x 67mm x 50mm. Main cristal: 46mm x 75mm x 34mm
 Description:
(Nº-39).
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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Municipio Bolívar, Vélez Province, Santander Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 82mm x 67mm x 50mm. Main cristal: 46mm x 75mm x 34mm
 Description:
(Nº-39).
 Viewed:  3338 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Municipio Bolívar, Vélez Province, Santander Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 82mm x 67mm x 50mm. Main cristal: 46mm x 75mm x 34mm
 Description:
Couple of crossed translucent Quartz crystals. The main has inclusions and a fracture like a shiny cloud.
In the label the weight: 210 gr. (Nº-39).
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PostPosted: Mar 01, 2019 12:47    Post subject: Re: Franjungle Collection  

Quartz from Muzo, Boyacá Department, Colombia. (Nº-26).

A flat transparent Quartz with two points and smaller crystals, all well terminated.



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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 42mm x 59mm x 32mm
 Description:
(Nº-26).
 Viewed:  3265 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 42mm x 59mm x 32mm
 Description:
(Nº-26).
 Viewed:  3261 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 42mm x 59mm x 32mm
 Description:
A flat transparent Quartz with two points and smaller crystals, all well terminated. (Nº-26).
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PostPosted: Mar 04, 2019 05:37    Post subject: Re: Franjungle Collection  

Quartz from Muzo, Boyacá Department, Colombia. (Nº-23).

Doubly terminated crystal with many divergent sons in the chipped point.



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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 87mm x 41mm x 31mm
 Description:
(Nº-23).
 Viewed:  3197 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 87mm x 41mm x 31mm
 Description:
The lower termination is composed of many smaller parallel faces.
 Viewed:  3199 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 87mm x 41mm x 31mm
 Description:
Doubly terminated crystal with many divergent sons in the chipped point. (Nº-23).
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PostPosted: Mar 08, 2019 13:34    Post subject: Re: Franjungle Collection  

Quartz from Muzo, Boyacá Department, Colombia. (Nº-11).

Wide and Slim Quartz crystal with four termination points.



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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 46mm x 90mm x 20mm
 Description:
(Nº-11).
 Viewed:  3100 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 46mm x 90mm x 20mm
 Description:
(Nº-11).
 Viewed:  3103 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 46mm x 90mm x 20mm
 Description:
Wide and Slim Quartz crystal with four termination points. (Nº-11).
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PostPosted: Mar 11, 2019 04:36    Post subject: Re: Franjungle Collection  

Pyrite from Muzo, Boyacá Department, Colombia.

Shiny and golden floating Pyrite with some cubes and caverns.



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 Mineral: Pyrite
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 33mm x 35mm x 16mm
 Description:
 Viewed:  3024 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Pyrite
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 33mm x 35mm x 16mm
 Description:
Shiny and golden floating Pyrite with some cubes and caverns.
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PostPosted: Mar 14, 2019 04:06    Post subject: Re: Franjungle Collection  

Quartz from Muzo, Boyacá Department, Colombia. (Nº-13).

Clear single crystal with right and clean edges and white internal drawings.



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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 42mm x 74mm x 13mm
 Description:
(Nº-13).
 Viewed:  2940 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 42mm x 74mm x 13mm
 Description:
(Nº-13).
 Viewed:  2949 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 42mm x 74mm x 13mm
 Description:
Clear single crystal with right and clean edges and white internal drawings. (Nº-13).
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PostPosted: Mar 15, 2019 16:12    Post subject: Re: Franjungle Collection  

Fluorite from La Viesca Mine, La Collada, Siero, Asturias, Spain.

Group of translucent Fluorite cubes showing a violet color with some geometric darker color zoning.



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 Mineral: Fluorite
 Locality:
La Viesca Mine, La Collada mining area, Huergo, Siero, Comarca Oviedo, Asturias, Principality of Asturias, Spain
 Dimensions: 61mm x 56mm x 51mm
 Description:
 Viewed:  2876 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Fluorite
 Locality:
La Viesca Mine, La Collada mining area, Huergo, Siero, Comarca Oviedo, Asturias, Principality of Asturias, Spain
 Dimensions: 61mm x 56mm x 51mm
 Description:
Group of translucent Fluorite cubes showing a violet color with geometric darker color zoning.
 Viewed:  2872 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Fluorite
 Locality:
La Viesca Mine, La Collada mining area, Huergo, Siero, Comarca Oviedo, Asturias, Principality of Asturias, Spain
 Dimensions: 61mm x 56mm x 51mm
 Description:
Light behind.
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PostPosted: Mar 19, 2019 12:33    Post subject: Re: Franjungle Collection  

Quartz from Muzo, Boyacá Department, Colombia. (Nº-21).

Doubly terminated Quartz crystal with a great white core.



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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 67mm x 26mm x 18mm
 Description:
(Nº-21).
 Viewed:  2789 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 67mm x 26mm x 18mm
 Description:
Doubly terminated Quartz crystal with a great white core. (Nº-21).
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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 67mm x 26mm x 18mm
 Description:
Micro crystals grown at the backside. (Nº-21).
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PostPosted: Mar 22, 2019 18:15    Post subject: Re: Franjungle Collection  

Quartz from Minas Gerais, Brazil.

Transparent Quartz point with chalcedony inclusions.



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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Minas Gerais, Brazil
 Dimensions: 24mm x 42mm x 20mm
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 Viewed:  2693 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Minas Gerais, Brazil
 Dimensions: 24mm x 42mm x 20mm
 Description:
Transparent Quartz point with chalcedony inclusions.
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PostPosted: Mar 25, 2019 13:25    Post subject: Re: Franjungle Collection  

Quartz from San Cristobal, Suaita, Santander Department, Colombia. (Nº-31).

Single Quartz crystal cloudy at the base with smoke at the middle and clear at the top.



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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
San Cristobal, Municipio Suaita, Santander Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 24mm x 84mm x 19mm
 Description:
(Nº-31).
 Viewed:  2592 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
San Cristobal, Municipio Suaita, Santander Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 24mm x 84mm x 19mm
 Description:
Single Quartz crystal cloudy at the base with smoke at the middle and clear at the top. (Nº-31).
 Viewed:  2599 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Mar 29, 2019 12:57    Post subject: Re: Franjungle Collection  

Hematite from Tadaout, Taouz, Er Rachida, Drâa-Tafilalet, Morocco.

Brilliant botryoidal Hematite with cold touch and heavy weight (236 gr).
In the cut we observe concentric growths of different colours, and radial fibrous growths of hematite.

These pieces have been cleaned in origin with sand which eliminates the surface oxide layer to let us see these spherical forms of good size. Curious Moroccan novelty found in 2018.



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 Mineral: Hematite
 Locality:
Tadaout, Taouz, Er Rachidia Province, Drâa-Tafilalet Region, Morocco
 Dimensions: 62mm x 55mm x 53mm
 Description:
 Viewed:  2478 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Hematite
 Locality:
Tadaout, Taouz, Er Rachidia Province, Drâa-Tafilalet Region, Morocco
 Dimensions: 62mm x 55mm x 53mm
 Description:
 Viewed:  2484 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Apr 01, 2019 04:15    Post subject: Re: Franjungle Collection  

Quartz from Muzo, Boyacá Department, Colombia. (Nº-27).

Crystal with two crossed doubly terminated, the bigger with some phantoms in a point.



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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 31mm x 53mm x 21mm
 Description:
(Nº-27).
 Viewed:  2416 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 31mm x 53mm x 21mm
 Description:
Crystal with two crossed doubly terminated, the bigger with some phantoms in a point. (Nº-27).
 Viewed:  2421 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Apr 04, 2019 17:10    Post subject: Re: Franjungle Collection  

Quartz from Muzo, Boyacá Department, Colombia. (Nº-20).

Slim and flat Quartz point with internal drawings.



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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 51mm x 67mm x 20mm
 Description:
(Nº-20).
 Viewed:  2312 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia
 Dimensions: 51mm x 67mm x 20mm
 Description:
Slim and flat Quartz point with internal drawings. (Nº-20).
 Viewed:  2313 Time(s)

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