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PostPosted: Nov 29, 2020 19:28    Post subject: Stumped. Help with identifying  

Hey everyone.

I found this rock in the yard. I live on a bluff next to the Wabash River so mostly a limestone area. I started shining it up and realized I wasn't really sure what it was. I've Googled all I can but maybe someone here has seen something similar? It has red/gold pieces on the outside and inside. Also metallic spots throughout some gold some silver in color which made me think pyrite as I also spotted some Black crystal? I don't know if its visible but inside is broken into small rectangular sections. Its just weird to me. Scratch test was a 7 so quartz maybe? New to this so again any help appreciated.



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 Mineral: Quartz
 Dimensions: 5 cm
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PostPosted: Nov 29, 2020 22:35    Post subject: Re: Stumped. Help with identifying.  

Looks like water worn calcite with long gone chips of other included "stuff" that has eroded out.

Put your specimen in household vinegar for several minutes and it should fizz. BOB
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PostPosted: Nov 30, 2020 07:14    Post subject: Re: Stumped. Help with identifying.  

Thank you Bob. That makes so much sense now that I think about it!
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PostPosted: Nov 30, 2020 07:27    Post subject: Re: Stumped. Help with identifying.  

Bob and LAB - do you think it might be Quartz with Tourmaline in it? I wouldn't expect calcite to be quite so shiny and, if calcite, I would expect a pebble to show at least some evidence of damage from its journey (river or shore-line) and for there to be some Rhombic cleavage showing.
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PostPosted: Nov 30, 2020 11:33    Post subject: Re: Stumped. Help with identifying  

I'm with Peter on this, though I'm not sure about the tourmaline--I think it's more likely quartz with some K-feldspar and maybe biotite mica. Wisconsin ice extended more that half-way south through Indiana, including the central Wabash valley. I'm familiar with glacial deposits in Ohio, and it wouldn't be at all unusual to see something like this there. However, a rounded calcite fragment would definitely be odd.
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PostPosted: Nov 30, 2020 12:51    Post subject: Re: Stumped. Help with identifying  

Look in my backyard and you would find magnetite from Malaysia, blue john from Derbyshire, obsidian from Mexico, smithsonite from Spain, etc.

Plus all the waste from a collection I was given with no labels.

So backyard rocks can come from all over the world.
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PostPosted: Nov 30, 2020 16:22    Post subject: Re: Stumped. Help with identifying.  

Peter Perkins wrote:
Bob and LAB - do you think it might be Quartz with Tourmaline in it? I wouldn't expect calcite to be quite so shiny and, if calcite, I would expect a pebble to show at least some evidence of damage from its journey (river or shore-line) and for there to be some Rhombic cleavage showing.


I'll run the test. I just found your thread on everything I can do to find out. Thats a great list!
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PostPosted: Nov 30, 2020 16:30    Post subject: Re: Stumped. Help with identifying.  

Bob Harman wrote:
Looks like water worn calcite with long gone chips of other included "stuff" that has eroded out.

Put your specimen in household vinegar for several minutes and it should fizz. BOB


No fizz. Hmmmm
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PostPosted: Nov 30, 2020 16:36    Post subject: Re: Stumped. Help with identifying  

Here's a picture where you can sort of see the lines inside and the crystal bits.


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PostPosted: Nov 30, 2020 23:18    Post subject: Re: Stumped. Help with identifying  

Looks like a pebble of sheared quartz.
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PostPosted: Dec 01, 2020 06:30    Post subject: Re: Stumped. Help with identifying  

I tend to agree, given the hardness and photos
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