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The historic Sainte-Marie-aux-Mines Show
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PostPosted: Feb 21, 2012 07:54    Post subject: Re: The historic Sainte-Marie-aux-Mines Show move to Colmar in 2012 & the future  

Just now found further information on the site of Règne Minéral:
https://www.minerauxetfossiles.com/index.php?page=045
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PostPosted: Feb 21, 2012 08:16    Post subject: Colmar Show cut off!  

I copied below the text of the notice (in French language) published in the Le Règne Minéral web page. There Michel Schwab confirms the fact that Colmar will not start, he complains about the campaign of Ste. Marie against Colmar and he wishes success for Ste. Marie in its new format.

So, now officially Colmar Show is cut off and only Ste. Marie in its new format will run in 2012.


Link: https://www.minerauxetfossiles.com/fichiers/CommuniqueRegneMineral.pdf

Annulation de la 49ème édition EURO MINERAL & EURO GEM 2012 au Parc EXPO de COLMAR.

En Juin 2011, MINERAL Concepts sarl annonçait le transfert en 2014 d’EURO MINERAL & EURO GEM vers COLMAR pour une mise en conformité de l’événement. En octobre, poussés vers la sortie par la Ville
de Ste-Marie-aux-Mines, nous nous sommes retrouvés dans l’obligation d’avancer ce transfert à juin 2012.

Dès l’annonce par la Ville de Sainte-Marie aux Mines en novembre 2011, de la création d’un événement concomitant organisé par ses services et financé par de l’argent public, MINERAL Concepts est victime d’une importante campagne de désinformation et d’une concurrence inique. Celle-ci est appuyée entre autre, sur une offre tarifaire à laquelle MINERAL Concepts sarl ne peut faire face.

En jetant la plus grande confusion à la fois sur l’image de notre événement et parmi l’ensemble de notre
clientèle à l’aide d’une communication désobligeante, l’équipe du maire et ses partenaires étrangers ont
réussi à semer un trouble considérable parmi nos 1000 exposants, pourtant convaincus pour la plupart que
leur avenir est à COLMAR.

Confrontés à un choix difficile entre l’attachement au succès d’EURO MINERAL & EURO GEM à Sainte-
Marie aux Mines et le transfert vers le Parc EXPO de COLMAR avec son confort et ses facilités, les
exposants sont désemparés. Beaucoup attendent qu’un hypothétique élément leur permette de se décider.
D’autres expliquent qu’ils feront encore un dernier Ste-Marie, pour annoncer qu’ils seront à COLMAR en
2013!

Malgré de nombreuses campagnes d’e-mailing, de phoning et des déplacements, à ce jour 450 exposants
sont inscrits à EURO MINERAL & EURO GEM COLMAR. Notre objectif de 700 exposants, nécessaire à la
bonne tenue de l’événement 2012, semble désormais hors d’atteinte et au regard des charges qui nous
incomberaient, nous sommes contraints, avec d’infinis regrets, d’annuler la 49e édition d’EURO MINERAL & EURO GEM qui devait
se tenir du 21 au 24 juin 2012 au Parc Expo de COLMAR.

Après avoir construit en 30 ans, une incroyable success story et porté EURO MINERAL & EURO GEM au
3ème rang mondial, cette situation est particulièrement douloureuse. Je garde le sentiment d’avoir, avec mon
équipe, fait un magnifique travail dont nous pouvons être fiers. Je déplore cependant de ne pas avoir su
mieux convaincre nos exposants de continuer cette aventure avec nous à COLMAR.

Je regrette amèrement de ne pouvoir donner suite à notre projet que nous considérons toujours comme
étant la seule voie de pérennisation de la manifestation.

Suite à cette annulation, MINERAL Concepts sarl est dans l’obligation de licencier 4 salariés.

La ville de Sainte-Marie aux Mines est désormais confrontée à un énorme challenge : accueillir les
exposants et les visiteurs dans les meilleures conditions possibles, conformément aux attentes et aux
réglementations en vigueur.

Nous espérons, dans l’intérêt de toute la communauté, que cette manifestation sera un réel succès.

Bien cordialement
Michel SCHWAB – Gérant
et toute l’équipe de MINERAL Concepts sarl
Brigitte SCHAEFFER, Flore COTTEL, Eric JACOB, Luc SPATZ
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PostPosted: Jul 27, 2022 07:20    Post subject: Re: The historic Sainte-Marie-aux-Mines Show  

This is an old topic, it takes us 10 years back, but reading it and seeing how divided the community was in regard to rustic SMAM vs modern Colmar, etc...I was wondering if this topic came up again.

I recently was in Alsace, I spent time in Colmar and less time in SMAM (one month late or 11 months early depending on how you want to see it) and I remembered this thread so, now I am curious.

Did the changes promised and done in SMAM made a positive important difference? Or should Colmar be revisited as an option?

Looking forward for your opinions.

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PostPosted: Jul 27, 2022 09:23    Post subject: Re: The historic Sainte-Marie-aux-Mines Show  

Return of the transfer to Colmar?
I don't think that would be a good idea.
Of course, for professionals, attendance would be easier. But the public loves the holiday atmosphere that is not found in Colmar.
There is also the charm of staying in small chalets in the mountains and meals are better in the villages.
My first visit to SMM dates back to 1967…
And I love going to Munich, about 40 times!
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PostPosted: Jul 27, 2022 12:58    Post subject: Re: The historic Sainte-Marie-aux-Mines Show  

I was at SMAM last month and heard nobody at all talking about moving the show to Colmar or anywhere else. Dealers were in general very happy with their sales, attendance was a record of over 30,000, traffic during set-up and tear-down moved smoothly and was better organized than in the past, and of course best of all is the SMAM "atmosphere", unique among major international shows.
So, if anyone wants to attempt to organize a competing show in Colmar or elsewhere, I wish them the best of luck but I predict that it will be a total flop, just like the last attempt to have the show in Colmar.
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PostPosted: Jul 27, 2022 14:31    Post subject: Re: The historic Sainte-Marie-aux-Mines Show  

What I did not specify above is that the organization was taken over by the authorities of the city of SMM who understood the touristic contribution of the event. It's not DIY anymore.
The show is much better organized than before.
In Colmar, the show would be tasteless and would lose its historic soul.
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PostPosted: Jul 28, 2022 17:14    Post subject: Re: The historic Sainte-Marie-aux-Mines Show  

Part of the truth and a forgotten story is, that the local authorities obstructed and harassed the former decade-long private show promoter in just about any possible way over years, and from year to year worse!
Just because of this more and more unfriendly environment and not because he did not like Sainte Marie anymore, he tried to "escape" to Colmar, by the way a much nicer place than Sante Marie, at least in my eyes.

The local politicians jumped in intelligently, when it was about 50-50 whether the show would stay or move. Realizing at last minute, that they could possibly make a substantial profit for whom so ever (for themselves ;-) ) by taking over private decade-long build up and marketing efforts for free, they managed to keep the show in their village. Expropriation by the state would be the suitable expression for that.

Exactly from this point onwards, absolutely nothing was a problem anymore - parking lots, access of security or rescue forces, catering... - you name it.

The local politicians travelling every year to Tucson and Munich of course;-)
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PostPosted: Jul 29, 2022 00:53    Post subject: Re: The historic Sainte-Marie-aux-Mines Show  

"All is well that ends well...." Very strange how 'they finally saw the light' and not surprising that it was for the wrong reasons; but, "All is well that ends well...."

minsur wrote:
Part of the truth and a forgotten story is, that the local authorities obstructed and harassed the former decade-long private show promoter in just about any possible way over years, and from year to year worse!
Just because of this more and more unfriendly environment and not because he did not like Sainte Marie anymore, he tried to "escape" to Colmar, by the way a much nicer place than Sante Marie, at least in my eyes.

The local politicians jumped in intelligently, when it was about 50-50 whether the show would stay or move. Realizing at last minute, that they could possibly make a substantial profit for whom so ever (for themselves ;-) ) by taking over private decade-long build up and marketing efforts for free, they managed to keep the show in their village. Expropriation by the state would be the suitable expression for that.

Exactly from this point onwards, absolutely nothing was a problem anymore - parking lots, access of security or rescue forces, catering... - you name it.

The local politicians travelling every year to Tucson and Munich of course;-)
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PostPosted: Jul 29, 2022 04:25    Post subject: Re: The historic Sainte-Marie-aux-Mines Show  

I can only give a visitor opinion.
I do not regret the change, especially when it comes to welcoming visitors.
In the past, in the '60s, it was simpler. I parked my car in front of the Theater stairs.
I had even made an exchange by choosing French barites, car trunk open!
Roger Titeux was already there, with his boater hat and Italian celestines.
But the specimens were less beautiful than today.
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PostPosted: Jul 29, 2022 07:51    Post subject: Re: The historic Sainte-Marie-aux-Mines Show  

Roger Warin wrote:
I can only give a visitor opinion.
I do not regret the change, especially when it comes to welcoming visitors.
In the past, in the '60s, it was simpler. I parked my car in front of the Theater stairs.
I had even made an exchange by choosing French barites, car trunk open!
Roger Titeux was already there, with his boater hat and Italian celestines.
But the specimens were less beautiful than today.


Prepping-Labs were unknown yet in the sixties...;.-) , but this is another story...
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PostPosted: Jul 29, 2022 08:05    Post subject: Re: The historic Sainte-Marie-aux-Mines Show  

Peter Lemkin wrote:
"All is well that ends well...." Very strange how 'they finally saw the light' and not surprising that it was for the wrong reasons; but, "All is well that ends well...."

minsur wrote:
Part of the truth and a forgotten story is, that the local authorities obstructed and harassed the former decade-long private show promoter in just about any possible way over years, and from year to year worse!
Just because of this more and more unfriendly environment and not because he did not like Sainte Marie anymore, he tried to "escape" to Colmar, by the way a much nicer place than Sante Marie, at least in my eyes.

The local politicians jumped in intelligently, when it was about 50-50 whether the show would stay or move. Realizing at last minute, that they could possibly make a substantial profit for whom so ever (for themselves ;-) ) by taking over private decade-long build up and marketing efforts for free, they managed to keep the show in their village. Expropriation by the state would be the suitable expression for that.

Exactly from this point onwards, absolutely nothing was a problem anymore - parking lots, access of security or rescue forces, catering... - you name it.

The local politicians travelling every year to Tucson and Munich of course;-)


For the show promoter who was forced out of his lifelong successful business and basically expropriated by the state within just a few weeks, as well as for his employees losing their jobs, it ended not so well:-((
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