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New generation for picture - Ploum
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PostPosted: Nov 07, 2011 23:23    Post subject: New generation for picture - Ploum  

Sorry for my english....

I try for some days / weeks a new system to realize photos of microminerals.

It is a modular system. I always keep(preserve) my bonnettes but I can add for sizes lower than 6 mm in width of field another system.

My system with bonnettes simple allowed me width of maximum 3.5 mm field to keep(preserve) a good quality.

I have imagined to use my first system of lens (close up) as an ocular and to add the second system as the objective. So i have a photographic microscope. The limits are given by the resolution of the best objective ( numerical aperture 0.4 ). My limit is 0.5 mm of FOV now but begin i keep 1 mm for limit.



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Fumade, Castelnau-de-Brassac, Tarn, Midi-Pyrénées, France
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PostPosted: Nov 08, 2011 05:42    Post subject: Re: New generation for picture  

It would be helpful if you would include locality details with your photos. Very nice cacoxenite photo, by the way.
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PostPosted: Nov 09, 2011 03:35    Post subject: Re: New generation for picture  

New examples


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Clinochlore
Felskinn, Saas Fee, Switzerland
FOV 1.5 mm
 Viewed:  142738 Time(s)

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Clinochlore
Felskinn, Saas Fee, Switzerland
FOV 1.5 mm
 Viewed:  142742 Time(s)

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Clinochlore
Felskinn, Saas Fee, Switzerland
FOV 1.5 mm
 Viewed:  142680 Time(s)

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Vesuvianite
Felskinn, Saas Fee, Switzerland
FOV 3 mm
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PostPosted: Nov 09, 2011 03:47    Post subject: Re: New generation for picture  

Superb Ploum!
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PostPosted: Nov 09, 2011 04:17    Post subject: Re: New generation for picture  

A pleasure Jordi :). In fact I search also small minerals, photogenic and not expensive too :).

If someone wants to see photos with my technique .... MP.



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Mas Dieu, Gard, France
FOV 2.5 mm
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Cerussite
Mas Dieu, Gard, France
FOV 4 mm
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Mas Dieu, Gard, France
FOV 2.5 mm
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PostPosted: Nov 09, 2011 05:04    Post subject: Re: New generation for picture  

Gorgeous photos, I would be interested in your set-up & what camera you use.
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PostPosted: Nov 09, 2011 05:54    Post subject: Re: New generation for picture  

My system is not usual, i think that I am alone in using it in our small world...

In fact I use a bridge FZ28 or FZ48 panasonic

I also use close-up lenses: raynox DCR 150, 250 and msn 202 (505 is not interessant).

And for less I use a microscopic system with additional lenses. For this I use a lens tube of 200 mm (Nikon) APO. I can use also finite objective but normally I prefer this system. With this lens tube I can use all infinite objective and I have now a complete game of lenses :

=> Nikon CFI 10X, Nikon CFI 4X, Seiwa APO 20X (not used here for the moment), I should make an adaptor for 28mmx0.75 thread, I thought that it was like Nikon or Mitutoyo but not in fact !

=> Also very good lens like Componon 40 mm APO and 28 mm (not APO but as APO !)

And the OPD APO 10X that you can find on ebay. For beginning it's possible to make a system very interessant for not expensive price. You can use a DRC 150 raynox as a tube lens and a Chinese objective 4X on ebay (excellent until 2.5 mm of FOV)....

Some optic knowledge is useful. For the moment I can make photos between infiniti and 1 mm. But with Seiwa normally I can until 0.5 mm of FOV.

I hope than my English is not too bad for you...



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Cuprite
Johnsbach, Austria
FOV 1.3 mm
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Madeleine pass, Savoie, France
FOV 1.8 mm
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Olivenite
Laurion, Greece
FOV 10 mm
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East Grants Ridge, Cibola Co., New Mexico, USA
FOV 2.8 mm
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PostPosted: Nov 09, 2011 06:17    Post subject: Re: New generation for picture  

Very beautiful pictures Ploum!

I am very interested in the way you make these pictures.
Can you show us pictures of your equipment and how you use them?

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PostPosted: Nov 09, 2011 06:39    Post subject: Re: New generation for picture  

I can show the first generation of my system (one month ago).... But you must discover some details....

In fact, I have been so criticized for my "artificial picture" (in my state) that I am careful and folded up on me.

Now the system is the same but just a little better. I have done here my way for this evolution (in French but this forum is very interessant...). It speak about optic and different systems.

https://www.lenaturaliste.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=9486
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On page 7 you can see my system....

You must build a primary image with your objective (and also for me a tube lens) and you use your camera (with close up) to see this image.

The magnification could be for me 20x 4.8 = 96 X..... For that I use a 20X objective and a Raynox with my 600 mm zoom.

Good luck but this system is able to be better than others and relatively simple and also not expensive....

For beginning it's better to know how to use perfectly close up and a stacking software.
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PostPosted: Nov 09, 2011 07:30    Post subject: Re: New generation for picture  

Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge & set up info, very interesting, one day I would like to achieve such stunning photos.

Look forward to more !
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PostPosted: Nov 09, 2011 10:36    Post subject: Re: New generation for picture  

Salut Fred,

Wonderfull pictures, would you have some more ?

Thanks

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PostPosted: Nov 09, 2011 10:53    Post subject: Re: New generation for picture  

Yes Chris.... :)


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Rosasite
Laurion, Greece
fov = 1.5 mm
 Viewed:  142743 Time(s)

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Phillipsite
Perrier, Auvergne, France
FOV 3 mm
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Madeleine pass, Savoie, France
FOV 2 mm
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PostPosted: Nov 09, 2011 11:00    Post subject: Re: New generation for picture  

Wonderful photos and wonderful micromounts as well. Very nice. I am impressed.
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PostPosted: Nov 09, 2011 11:06    Post subject: Re: New generation for picture  

Ok if you like my photo a lot of could arrived !


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Annabergite
Laurion, Greece
FOV 3 mm
 Viewed:  142636 Time(s)

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Annabergite
Laurion, Greece
fov 1.5 mm
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Mimetite and goethite
Lantignié, Beaujolais, France
FOV 1.5 mm
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PostPosted: Nov 09, 2011 11:16    Post subject: Re: New generation for picture  

John S. White wrote:

Wonderful photos and wonderful micromounts as well. Very nice. I am impressed.


Me too. The Phillipsite is just great. And the Annabergite, and the Spessartine, and the Clinochlore, and... ;-)
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