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[COLMAR 2012]

EURO MINERAL & EURO GEM 2012 COLMAR 2012: A new beginning for the 49th edition of the oldest trade fair in France!

With the right balance between indoor and outdoor (tent villages) exhibitors, find the atmosphere of the traditional mineral show and take advantage of the facilities offered by an exhibition area.

The same team, the same concept, the same atmosphere, the same conviviality: joins us to Colmar from 21st to 24th June 2012, at the Colmar exhibition area!

All informations on: https://www.euromineral.fr
Any question: info(at)euromineral(dot)fr

[Christophe Houble]

[Jordi Fabre]

Is not so easy Christophe... ;-(

[arturo shaw]

[COLMAR 2012]

Hello everybody,

I saw all your post and I want to give you more details about the situation.

In order to verify the viability of EURO MINERAL & EURO GEM, we undertook two studies in 2010: the first regarding regulatory and administrative aspects and the second regarding safety and security. The verdict is clear; with 25 critical or outright insurmountable obstacles
I would like to ask you : If an event of this scale took place in your country would it be authorized in condtions like in SMAM?

Following our announcement, during the 48th edition in June 2011, of our planned move to Colmar in 2014, the Municipality of Sainte-Marie aux Mines requested major changes to our partnership agreement, most notably with respect to the use of public spaces.
We took into consideration the requests made by the Municipality and analyzed their impact, which called into question the very foundation of the long-running agreement, making it impossible to move forward.
After more than two months of negotiations in these conditions, it became clear that we could not be certain of a successful 2012 season at Sainte-Marie aux Mines. So we decided to move to Colmar in 2012.
It was with heavy hearts that we were compelled to make this decision. We understand your tearing and yours regrets to leave SMAM but we don’t have another choice.

The context made that we had to decide us quickly in order to insure the good progress of the 2012 show.

Today we are completely working for the success of Colmar 2012. We sent the registration forms two days ago and we worked a lot on the plans and on all the communication supports.
Keeping the same atmosphere as in SMAM is one of our priority. Villages of tents will be implanted on 20 000m ² and we will find the right balance between inside and outside spaces.

Moreover, we don’t go to Colmar in order to have more exhibitors but there, we will be able to satisfy the numerous requests of enlargement of stand. So, the exhibition grounds of Colmar allows us to put ourselves in agreement with the law but it also offer more facilities to our exhibitors, customers and visitors (access, logistic zones…)

Let us build the mineral show of a stable future in COLMAR.
Since many years, our company is in the same sector as yours. Between fascinated professionals, our interests can only be common.

We thank you for your continued loyalty, and we invite you to join us in with complete confidence at COLMAR… en route to a new success!

If you would more information about the reason for our move in 2012, please visit our website: www'.'euromineral'.'fr
or contact us directly under michel'.'schwab'@'euromineral'.'fr

Regards

Michel Schwab

[Jordi Fabre]

Merci Michel!

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More information

[Jordi Fabre]

I copy below the information published (in French language) about this topic in the last issue (102) of the French magazine Le Règne Minéral

What is sure is that the topic is complex with two shows already launched. We'll see what happens in the future...

Thanks to the Règne Mineral magazine for granting permission to reproduce the magazine here. His website for sales on line is located in Minéraux et Fossiles and they are some threads created in FMF related with this magazine, like: "Le Règne Minéral n°100"

[Sainte Marie]

Hello everyone,

My understanding is that the Sainte-Marie-Show-Place is not moving - it remains in Sainte Marie!!!
And the Sainte-Marie-show-place is continuing with its well-known exhibitors.
It is also my understanding, that who relocates is the Euro Gem promoter, making effort for getting people to relocate with him.

For some exhibitors this may be a difficult time to be clear on what to do. Because it seems to be that two shows would take place at the same time but different locations.

Here are some thoughts for sharing:
Needless to say, that the world most famous mineral show city Sainte Marie has its mining history and greatest & charming tradition.
Apart from enjoying the show in Sainte-Marie-show-place as such since 48 years now, all of us as well recognize that generally fair fees around the world are increasing fast.
Now, in Saint-Marie, with the city of Sainte Marie running the show, having different mind-set and mainly focused on the dealers & the region, the city likely will be able to keep the cost as stable as possible for the exhibitors in a longer term in order to attract them to return year over year. As well, one should trust, Saint Marie understand and will surely do their very best to provide good services and advertisement to and for the exhibitors, as these are as well pre-conditions for the exhibitors for a good show.
Plus, as we know, too big shows are simply over killing. Those shows might be looking professional from a logistic point of view, but how often do we have to experience that the exhibitor’s shares of cake are getting smaller and smaller and the visitors are exhausted and tired & confused too by the size of the show. One of the statements the major of Sainte Marie has given to the regional France news paper recently during his interview is, that Saint-Marie will also try to keep the size of the show in a good shape in the interest of the exhibitors and visitors.

Considering the history of Sainte-Marie-show-place and experienced logistic team, Sainte Marie could very well be a success.

Here is the website: https://www.sainte-marie-mineral.com

Although there are still some construction areas on the web, at least we can receive the handy key information we need.

Regards,
Murphy

[lluis]

Dear Murphy

Well, certainly Sainte Marie has a long history, and landscape is wonderful.

But I suppose that you would agree with me that the logistics is a nightmare.
You should fly to Colmar and then rent a car or drive a lot of km for not ever very good roads.
I was refraining to go to Sainte Marie because for one side, I should take a long trip from Barcelona (well, I could visit some cellars), get a hotel far from Sainte Marie and then return home.
In Colmar, I think to remember that there are two flys per day, at peanuts the ticket.
That means that I could go and return same day (being self employée, I appreciate that...I need to work to fuel my hobby... :-) )

Anyway, time will say.

With best wishes

Lluís

[Sainte Marie]

Dear Lluís

You are such a sunshine :)
Of course there is an airport in Colmar,
But did you know this is for sport & private jet only?
So NO passenger’s traffic at all.

Well if some one would have a private jet, that’s good for this person, so he or she can come to Sainte Marie easily after arrival (Sainte Marie is 40 km away from the airport).
For all other couple of ten thousands of visitors, this airport is just meaningless to them.

Have a great day

Regards,
Murphy

[Carles Millan]

[Sainte Marie]

[alfredo]

I think almost all visitors coming to Ste Marie come by private car or rental car, so public transportation is not a relevant question. A few people take the public bus to Ste Marie - yes, there is one - slow but very cheap. And I suppose parking in Ste Marie, which used to be a huge headache, will be much easier now, with fewer dealers there.

I'm quite optimistic about the prospects for two simultaneous shows in Alsace. In the USA we are long used to the idea of shows with multiple venues. Each one will develop a distinct style, and visitors will fall in love with one or the other, or both. Some dealers will choose one, a few might open two booths and do both of them. (In Tucson, a well-known Russian dealer sells from even 3 different venues! And I know one dealer who sells in Tucson and Quartzite, separated by almost 3 hours driving.)

It might even be more fun than before, so everybody please stop panicking and whining! :-)

[Jordi Fabre]

[Carles Millan]

[Sainte Marie]

[COLMAR 2012]

Hello everybody,

here you can find some photos from the Colmar Parc Expo, than you can see the location better than of google map.
The Colmar Parc Expo is located just close to the vineyards and the mountains.
These photos were taken during the Colmar "Foire aux Vins". One of the greatest event in Alsace. You can also see some villages of tents outdoor.

You can also find other pictures from Colmar City and parc expo on our Facebook page.

[simonoff]

Rumors are flowing that the Colmar Mineral Show (replacement for Ste Marie) has now been cancelled. Is this true?

https://www.mineralien-welt.de/Seiten/MW_News.html
(link normalized by FMF)

In English

MINERALS World News
"Mission Colmar" has failed:
Michael Schwab is on
02/17/2012. Tucson is just over, here comes on the 14th February by Michael Schwab, the organizer of the market by 2011 in Ste-Marie-aux-Mines, the bad news: Due to lack of exhibitors is the stock market in Colmar 2012 does not, Schwab is on the event.
This is the preliminary conclusion after a months-long tug of war and many quarrels between him and the follow-up organizers in Ste-Marie (as reported in our last issue). Schwab, the great hopes for the sudden move to Colmar has continued, claims to be able to attract enough exhibitors to make the event economically perform.
In an official letter to the press writes a team led by Michel Schwab reported going from 430 exhibitors, but well-informed circles believe that there have been some applications need much less, and this led to the cancellation. Other events such as the "mineral-hamburg" have the same number of exhibitors in order to work with and very successful.
The cancellation is, of course, very regrettable, especially Michel Schwab made in the last 30 years the stock market into a global event in the field of minerals and fossils has - she was the world to Tucson and Munich is the third largest event. With a unique and valued by many collectors and exhibitors flair in the city of Ste.-Marie-aux-Mines was the place thanks to Michel Schwab, a major "market place" has become a high volume.
Now, the new organizers around Mayor Claude Abel in Ste.-Marie have responsibility to ensure that the end of June 2012 besondes high expectations will be attained. And exhibitors and collectors now have less a problem, namely, to have to choose one or the other event ...
Thank you, Michael Schwab, for 30 years of successful trade fair year, and best of luck and success, Claude Abel, for future exchanges.
Rainer Bode
Editor-WORLD MINERALS


Thanks
Bob

[Jordi Fabre]