We use cookies to show content based on your preferences. If you continue to browse you accept their use and installation. More information. >

FMF - Friends of Minerals Forum, discussion and message board
The place to share your mineralogical experiences


Spanish message board






Newest topics and users posts
16 Apr-09:46:56 Re: locality? (Bob Kerr)
16 Apr-05:47:22 Re: locality? (Tobi)
16 Apr-03:43:50 Re: locality? (Jordi Fabre)
16 Apr-03:36:35 Re: locality? (Tobi)
15 Apr-02:42:05 The mizunaka collection - fluorite (Am Mizunaka)
14 Apr-20:48:16 Re: monthly mineral chronicles, mineral guides and more... (Crocoite)
14 Apr-07:32:21 Re: locality? (Peter Megaw)
14 Apr-07:30:00 Locality? (Bob Kerr)
13 Apr-17:53:56 Re: collection of firmo espinar (Firmo Espinar)
13 Apr-10:22:57 Re: collection from dany mabillard (Dany Mabillard)
13 Apr-08:47:36 Re: collection of michael shaw (Michael Shaw)
12 Apr-23:33:07 Re: collection of volkmar stingl (Volkmar Stingl)
12 Apr-16:13:00 Re: don lum collection (Don Lum)
12 Apr-15:37:19 The mizunaka collection - beryl (Am Mizunaka)
12 Apr-14:55:06 Re: collection of carles millan (Carles Millan)
12 Apr-14:46:24 Re: collection of carles millan (Dany Mabillard)
12 Apr-14:44:22 Re: don lum collection (Dany Mabillard)
11 Apr-22:02:20 Re: don lum collection (Don Lum)
10 Apr-14:59:55 Re: the mizunaka collection - elbaite (Am Mizunaka)
10 Apr-09:05:31 Re: collection of carles millan (Carles Millan)
10 Apr-08:08:58 Re: collection of michael shaw (Michael Shaw)
10 Apr-07:54:53 Re: the mim museum in beirut, lebanon (Carles Millan)
10 Apr-07:44:49 Re: the mim museum in beirut, lebanon (Mim Museum)
10 Apr-05:49:50 Re: the mim museum in beirut, lebanon (Tobi)
10 Apr-05:46:01 Re: collection of firmo espinar (Tobi)

For lists of newest topics and postings click here


RSS RSS

View unanswered posts

Why and how to register

Index Index
 FAQFAQ RegisterRegister  Log inLog in
 {Forgotten your password?}Forgotten your password?  

Like
112117


The time now is Apr 16, 2024 14:32

Search for a textSearch for a text   

A general guide for using the Forum with some rules and tips
The information provided within this Forum about localities is only given to allow reference to them. Any visit to any of the localities requires you to obtain full permission and relevant information prior to your visit. FMF is strictly against any illicit activities related to collecting minerals.
Stalactites?
  Goto page Previous  1, 2
  Index -> The Ten Thousand Club
Like
11


View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message

lluis




Joined: 17 Nov 2006
Posts: 711

View user's profile

Send private message

PostPosted: Jul 09, 2018 03:19    Post subject: Re: Stalactites?  

"The fact that both styles of rhomb-stacking occur on the same specimen suggests that something changed and caused the spiraling to begin after the straight growth stage....chemical or simply physical???
Peter Megaw
PostPosted: Jul 08, 2018 16:00 Post subject: Re: Stalactites?"

Hard to say..... As a physics teacher said one time to a friend of mine that studied Physics, "Chemistry is only a cancer of Physics. Pity is that tumor is bigger than body!"
At those levels, just a question of chemical-physics, I guess...

With best wishes

Lluís
Back to top
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Like
   

Roger Warin




Joined: 23 Jan 2013
Posts: 1175


Access to the FMF Gallery title=

View user's profile

Send private message

PostPosted: Jul 09, 2018 09:02    Post subject: Re: Stalactites?  

Growth of a crystal.

The growth mechanisms of the crystal seed are varied. They are correlated with the growth rates of the faces, that is with the kinetics of crystallization: either the growth is slow and two-dimensional and one obtains plane faces, or it appears screw dislocations, or even spirals according to the speed of growth.
The geometry of the atomic site varies according to surface irregularities. Some external bonds remain vacant, occupied on the surface by ligands of the hydrothermal solution which must be displaced by the deposition of a new atom of the molecule which crystallizes.
The presence of natural catalytic effects is possible by the presence of impurities in the hydrothermal phase.
Thus the crystal takes its habit.
In the case of spiral crystals, the elongation is maximal.
There is another type of spiral growth for chiral species, such as quartz. In this case, it is subparallel growths that introduce the spiral deformation as for twisted quartz (or Gwindels) with a double possibility.
At least that's what I think, and you?
Back to top
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Like
   

lluis




Joined: 17 Nov 2006
Posts: 711

View user's profile

Send private message

PostPosted: Jul 09, 2018 10:06    Post subject: Re: Stalactites?  

Hi, Roger

I think I said same as you: it is chemical-physics.... (for a physician, physical-chemistry... No need to explain that chemist and physicists do not go alongs very well..... :-))

With best wishes

Lluís
Back to top
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Like
   

Bob Harman




Joined: 06 Nov 2015
Posts: 765


Access to the FMF Gallery title=

View user's profile

Send private message

PostPosted: Jul 09, 2018 10:11    Post subject: Re: Stalactites?  

Somewhat similar to Tracy's 2008 pictured quartz examples are these 2 examples from Indiana. The first is a "stalactite" type grouping of tiny individual terminated and doubly terminated quartz crystals. The second example is more of a "free form" growth of similar tiny terminated and doubly terminated quartz crystals. I have others as well. How these form has always intrigued me.


fullsizeoutput_29e0.jpeg
 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Indiana, USA
 Dimensions: The quartz crystals are about 1mm each. Some crystals are doubly terminated. The free form area is 2.8 cm
 Description:
Acquired in 2011.
 Viewed:  6203 Time(s)

fullsizeoutput_29e0.jpeg



t_fullsizeoutput_29de_800.jpeg
 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Indiana, USA
 Dimensions: The quartz crystals are 1mm. Some crystals are doubly terminated. The whole "stalactite" is 2.5 cm
 Description:
Self collected about 2008
 Viewed:  6190 Time(s)

t_fullsizeoutput_29de_800.jpeg


Back to top
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Like
1
   

lluis




Joined: 17 Nov 2006
Posts: 711

View user's profile

Send private message

PostPosted: Jul 09, 2018 10:20    Post subject: Re: Stalactites?  

Hi, Bob

Here, to me, it is less stunning than the stalactite brought to us by Peter Megaw...
In this case, it is just a quick crystallization, growing in all places it can. Some would be in a shape, some in another... maybe just a difference in the flow of components....
Again, chemical-physics. But to my eyes, far less spectacular...

With best wishes

Lluís
Back to top
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Like
   
Display posts from previous:   
   Index -> The Ten Thousand Club   All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Page 2 of 2
  Goto page Previous  1, 2  

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


All pictures, text, design © Forum FMF 2006-2024


Powered by FMF