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Posted: Jul 03, 2013 15:48 Post subject: Re: Sainte Marie-aux-Mines Show 2013 - 50th Edition! |
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Hi,
Some remarkable golds, seen in St Marie 2013 Show.
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Gold Bright Star Mine, Colorado miniature |
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Gold Jamestown Mine, Tuolume Co. Calif. Cabinet W. Leicht's gift MNHN Paris |
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Gold Damatia Mine (Kelly), El Dorado Co. Calif. MNHN (musée National d'Histoire Naturelle) de Paris. ex Coll Vésigné |
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Gold Eagle Nest Mine, Placer Co. Calif. very large MNHN Paris. Sponsorship Total |
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Posted: Jul 04, 2013 11:30 Post subject: Re: Sainte Marie-aux-Mines Show 2013 - 50th Edition! |
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Another series of exceptional minerals seen in Ste Marie.
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Leifite Poudrette Quarry, Mt St Hilaire, Québec cabinet MNHN Paris / gift Total |
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Sulphur Cozzodisi, Cateltermini, Sic. It. large |
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Stephanite, Fresnillo Mine, Pinos, Zacatecas, Mex. large for the species MNHN Paris - ex Coll. Haüy |
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Tellurium Good Hope Mine, Vulcan Distr., Colorado Cabinet MNHN Paris |
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Posted: Jul 04, 2013 11:58 Post subject: Re: Sainte Marie-aux-Mines Show 2013 - 50th Edition! |
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Hello !
It was my first Sainte-Marie Show !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I dreamed some so much since so many years....................
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Posted: Jul 04, 2013 14:21 Post subject: Re: Sainte Marie-aux-Mines Show 2013 - 50th Edition! |
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Another series
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Cerussite Nakhlak Mine, Anarak,, Esfahan, Iran Cabinet reticulated |
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Posted: Jul 06, 2013 07:37 Post subject: Re: Sainte Marie-aux-Mines Show 2013 - 50th Edition! |
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Another series from Ste Marie 2013.
Roger.
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Hematite "klapperson-Kluft", Siedelengletscher, Uri, Switzerland large |
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Pyrargyrite Fresnillo Mine, Zacatecas, Mexico large for species |
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Pyromorphite Les Farges, Ussel, Corrèze, France large |
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Rhodochrosite Hotazel Mine, Kalahari Mn Fields, RSA Cabinet (small) |
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Posted: Jul 06, 2013 14:15 Post subject: Re: Sainte Marie-aux-Mines Show 2013 - 50th Edition! |
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I'm talking about your photo posted today above which file name is Proustite_0036_R.jpg.
Proustite from Mount Malosa? Are you sure proustite was written in the label? Never heard of such species from that locality. Neither is it referenced at Mindat database. Mount Malosa is an alkaline pegmatite deposit. Sounds weird, doesn't it?
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Posted: Jul 06, 2013 14:52 Post subject: Sainte Marie-aux-Mines Show 2013 - Small Homage |
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Barcelona 06/07/2013
With some time now and before to publish my last post with some conclusions about this 50th edition, lets me publish a small homage to all exhibitors to this Show (as well as other Shows of Minerals)
As I'm non more exhibiting in Ste. Marie now I can recognize better the monumental effort that all dealers do to drive to Ste. Marie with their goodies (some from very far countries) and just arriving to Ste. Marie do an extra effort to download all his stuff to show to visitors attractive spots, full of natural miracles.
This series of photos taken with my not so good phone camera, would be a vision of the hidden, but not negligible part of the Shows: the set-up and set-down.
More to come...
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...and the first signs of life arrive. |
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The trucks should be downloaded... |
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... until they becomes empty. |
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The organization should take care of all details... |
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...but the weather becomes unpleasant. |
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At least the people can work inside the tents... |
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...like the moroccan Esseouani. |
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And the risks are there. Take care of your tent!... |
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...but finally nothing happens (as usual)... .. |
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...and the sun shines on the tables of the area "Val d'Argent"... |
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This is Ste. Marie, the place where the flowers be watered although it rain a lot! ;-) |
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Posted: Jul 06, 2013 15:09 Post subject: Re: Sainte Marie-aux-Mines Show 2013 - 50th Edition! |
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I'm talking about your photo posted today above which file name is Proustite_0036_R.jpg.
Proustite from Mount Malosa? Are you sure proustite was written in the label? Never heard of such species from that locality. Neither is it referenced at Mindat database. Mount Malosa is an alkaline pegmatite deposit. Sounds weird, doesn't it? |
Thank you Carles. Is Parisite with Aegirine. I already changed it in the captions.
If Roger can send to me by email a new image without the name "Proustite" printed, I will use it to replace the current photo.
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Posted: Jul 06, 2013 15:58 Post subject: Re: Sainte Marie-aux-Mines Show 2013 - 50th Edition! |
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Hello Jordi, Carles,
Thank you very much for correcting my error. I was abused by a photo out of focus of the label. I was wrong. Forgive this unforgivable distraction... I'll send you a new photo.
It is indeed a Parisite and it is priced at 19,000.00 euros. . I'll send you a new photo. Many thanks.
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Posted: Jul 06, 2013 17:18 Post subject: Re: Sainte Marie-aux-Mines Show 2013 - 50th Edition! |
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Jordi it's a good idea to show "the scene behind".
It's hard working to prepare everything. Most of the visitors have no idea about it.
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Posted: Jul 07, 2013 04:48 Post subject: Sainte Marie-aux-Mines Show 2013 - Concluding remarks |
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Barcelona 07/07/2013
The 50th edition of Ste. Marie is over, with this last post I will try to offer a global vision of what happened there.
I had talks with many dealers, visitors and people connected with the organization and, although there were some small problems, the general opinion seems to be that it was a good edition and that the work of the committee was positive, more or less equal to the past year. The most positive points were the indefatigable efforts of almost all of Ste. Marie to make the Show successful, helping everybody continuously and the exhibits like the "Hidden Treasures of America" mandatory in a big Show like Ste. Marie. Also positive was the good management of such a large Show, but this positive fact also has a negative part. Its very success could, in time, mean that it will become so large that it could collapse. Many have begged the organization to maintain a reasonable number of exhibitors, but this year the number of exhibitors was higher than in past years and continuing to grow. We saw many people in every corner of Ste. Marie exhibiting in places that did not exist before, so it seems that the main goal for the organization was trying to supply a spot for everybody and this is a little bit dangerous… Anyway, from what the dealers said it seems that no major problems happened at the end of the Show and that Sunday was a successful day with many more people than usual. So congratulations to the organization but at same time a warning for future editions, it seems a general opinion that the number of exhibitors should be limited or Ste. Marie could suffer from its own success.
Also the new area, the "Parc Jules Simon", is a very good idea, but it demands more advertisement and better access to realize its potential.
Going to the minerals... as I commented before, Ste. Marie is, in my opinion, the main show in the world for Moroccan minerals, judging by the number and variety of Moroccan dealers attending this Show, and it supplied something very unusual in the last Shows: novelties!
Luckily several mines in Morocco are operating and, as another very experienced dealer told me, "the novelties appear when the mines operate", so Morocco has a gift : Bou Nahas in Oumjrane, Bouismas in the Bou Azzer area, and Imiter are supplying new material, like attractive Pyrite-Marcasite in Baryte "boxes", promising Cerussites, and some others from Bou Nahas, fine Proustites and extremely colorful orange Baryte from Bouismas… add to this the great richness of the Imilchil area with, this time, attractive Prehnites, Fluorapatites in lovely pink feldspar matrices, as well as Fluroapatites associated with combos of Arfvedsonite and Stilbite. Taouz also supplied "different" Vanadinites on a crystallized Siderite matrix. In an old abandoned mine works named "Lizaste" between Mibladen and Aouli they found bowls of Azurite on a white Gypsum matrix. Also great new Gersdorffites from Aït Ahman, and much more… Morocco for me this time was a kind of paradise, I found in Ste. Marie many attractive specimens from there.
Outside of this country I found not much more, but still a little: Greece with Linarites from the King Arthur Mine, Kirki Mines, Évros, Thrace, and Azurites from the Plaka Mines, Laurion. Brazil, with the new species Almeidaites, Mexico with better quality than before Smithsonite pseudomorphs after Calcite from the San Antonio mine, Santa Eulalia... and probably some others that in this moment I’m not able to remember.
As usual in former Shows, a large number of great classic specimens from dispersed collections were offered for the main dealers, and different from Tucson, with prices more or less “realistic”…
The Ste. Marie Show always touches my heart; I enjoyed my visit this year as well as I’m sure I will enjoy in 2014!
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Posted: Jul 07, 2013 05:13 Post subject: Re: Sainte Marie-aux-Mines Show 2013 - 50th Edition! |
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Thank you for taking us along on the journey. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
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Posted: Jul 07, 2013 07:54 Post subject: Re: Sainte Marie-aux-Mines Show 2013 - 50th Edition! |
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Pierre Joubert wrote: | Thank you for taking us along on the journey. I thoroughly enjoyed it. |
Thanks Pierre.
Please note that this is the end of my columns, but not the end of this thread. Everybody having something to comment /downloading about Ste. Marie 2013 please do it.
More comments = a better overview! ;-)
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Posted: Jul 07, 2013 11:11 Post subject: Re: Sainte Marie-aux-Mines Show 2013 - 50th Edition! |
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One little souvenir: Dioptase with cerussite, Mindouli, Brazzaville, Congo
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Posted: Jul 07, 2013 16:10 Post subject: Re: Sainte Marie-aux-Mines Show 2013 - 50th Edition! |
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Hello,
Contrasts in Ste Marie.
Not only rocks in the tray.
Rain, sun, sauerkraut, wine (and a sundial).
If you want, I can send other pics of minerals…
Roger.
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Posted: Jul 07, 2013 16:18 Post subject: Re: Sainte Marie-aux-Mines Show 2013 - 50th Edition! |
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I forgot Sun and public...
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Posted: Jul 07, 2013 16:31 Post subject: Re: Sainte Marie-aux-Mines Show 2013 - 50th Edition! |
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Roger Warin wrote: | ...If you want, I can send other pics of minerals... |
Please!
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Posted: Jul 08, 2013 11:17 Post subject: Re: Sainte Marie-aux-Mines Show 2013 - 50th Edition! |
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Another choice from Sainte-Marie.
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Posted: Jul 08, 2013 11:54 Post subject: Re: Sainte Marie-aux-Mines Show 2013 - 50th Edition! |
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According to Jean-Jacques Chevallier, one of biggest french mineralogist dealer,
the show becomes less and less interesting, it weakens year after year because there aren't new discoveries.
For my part, since that was my first Sainte-Marie Show, I really loved !!!
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Posted: Jul 08, 2013 16:37 Post subject: Re: Sainte Marie-aux-Mines Show 2013 - 50th Edition! |
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Hello,
I think this show is still as interesting as in the past. Of course it is a long time since tourmalines from Itatiaia glowed throughout the theater, the time when the surface of the show was very low.
The prices were very reasonable, and Roger Titeux told us: "so buy now..." But even then the money was scarcer than desirable minerals. We thought next year we would find other tourmalines and prices would fall. You know what happened. Minerals are beautiful exceptions in the Nature.
Why regret the past? There was not long ago appeared pezzotaïtes. You cannot have such new discoveries every year.
If I roughly summarize the situation since the sixties, in addition to European minerals there was the time of Madagascar, Congo and Brazil, then came the minerals from Tsumeb then located in SW Africa, Russia, followed. India sent its zeolites. Then the kingdom of Afghanistan and Pakistan crystals appeared alongside the financing needs of war. China finally arrived. Today, rocks came from moon, I saw the exceptional NWA 5000, a lunar feldspathic breccia in Ste Marie (550 – 600 euros/g).
What do we complain? Maybe prices... Making bad business? In any Show, we can find something interesting, especially in Ste Marie. And all this without counting on the resale of old prestigious collections.
I think I kept the enthusiasm of my twenties. Do not believe the grumpy, it's just different.
Roger.
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