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A mineralogical trip through the regions of the UK - England / Cumbria
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PostPosted: Mar 28, 2014 18:41    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through the regions of the UK - England / Cumbria  

Tobi, I've been down Florence mine quite a few times and know the Lonely Hearts area. It is not far from either the Florence shaft or the Ullcoats workings so the idea of it being long and lonely work makes no sense at all when you consider that all hard rock mining is long and lonely work for the small gang of men pushing forward a heading. A more likely explanation is that it's a little joke among the miners. Cumbrians are good at that sort of thing!

The drift driven from surface is what we up here call a dib or dip shaft and is either an incline or decline..depending.

Beckermet didn't produce much of note apart from the Banana Slide calcites but I have found small blue fluorites on the dump from no. 1 shaft.

The pumps, headframe and winding gear at Florence are still fully functional and the mine could easily be re-opened if we could find someone to pay the pumping costs. Any takers out there?
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PostPosted: Mar 29, 2014 04:34    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through the regions of the UK - England / Cumbria  

colin robinson wrote:
Tobi, I've been down Florence mine quite a few times and know the Lonely Hearts area. It is not far from either the Florence shaft or the Ullcoats workings so the idea of it being long and lonely work makes no sense at all when you consider that all hard rock mining is long and lonely work for the small gang of men pushing forward a heading. A more likely explanation is that it's a little joke among the miners. Cumbrians are good at that sort of thing!

Hi Colin,

i think the given explanations for the name are not contradictory: The one i quoted does not necessarily deny that the naming was rather a joke of the miners ;-) If there are no written records from the past, we will not know for sure ...

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PostPosted: Mar 29, 2014 10:02    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through the regions of the UK - England / Cumbria  

Hi Colin,

Good to hear from you again, it's been a while.

Thank you for the background information.

As much as I would like to help out reopening the Florence mine, I'm afraid my current account balance the pumps would not last more than several days. Perhaps if we all tried our luck in the lottery? :-)
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PostPosted: Jun 07, 2015 04:37    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through the regions of the UK - England / Cumbria  

Two more classics from Cumbrian mines:


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 Mineral: Fluorite, chalcopyrite
 Locality:
Hilton Mine, Scordale, Hilton, North Pennines Orefield, former Westmorland, Cumbria, England / United Kingdom
 Dimensions: Specimen size 4,5 cm, largest fluorite 12 mm
 Description:
 Viewed:  15415 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Galena, dolomite
 Locality:
Smallcleugh Mine, Nenthead, Alston Moor District, North Pennines Orefield, former Cumberland, Cumbria, England / United Kingdom
 Dimensions: Specimen size 8,5 cm, largest galena 2 cm
 Description:
 Viewed:  15402 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Jun 07, 2015 04:41    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through the regions of the UK - England / Cumbria  

Thank you Tobi - nice specimens for the region. Let's have some more folks!
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PostPosted: Jun 07, 2015 05:52    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through the regions of the UK - England / Cumbria  

Okay, if you insist!

Fluorite on Baryte from the Dow Scar Level, Hilton Mine, Scordale, Cumbria (formerly Westmorland). The specimen was recovered in 1970 by Mick Sutcliffe and Lindsay Greenbank. The Hilton Mine is one fo the few locations in the North Pennines where fluorite and Baryte occur in the same orebody.



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 Mineral: Fluorite on Barite
 Locality:
Hilton Mine, Scordale, Hilton, North Pennines Orefield, former Westmorland, Cumbria, England / United Kingdom
 Dimensions: 13x9x7 cm
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PostPosted: Jun 07, 2015 06:05    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through the regions of the UK - England / Cumbria  

Jesse Fisher wrote:
Okay, if you insist!
Yes, we insist!!! ;)

What a wonderful aesthetic specimen, Jesse, perfectly balanced and in an impressive size. Great!
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PostPosted: May 05, 2016 15:40    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through the regions of the UK - England / Cumbria  

A nice hematite-stained calcite twin from the West Cumbrian Iron Ore Field.


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 Mineral: Calcite
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Egremont, West Cumberland Iron Field, former Cumberland, Cumbria, England / United Kingdom
 Dimensions: 7x6x6 cm overall size
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PostPosted: May 05, 2016 17:46    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through the regions of the UK - England / Cumbria  

Jesse, there are many locations along the boundary between the barium and fluorite zones that have both minerals together although they don't produce much in the way of specimen material which is probably why they are not that well known. Once you get down into the Askrigg block the association is very common. A couple of weeks ago I was collecting some very nice cockscomb Baryte clusters on fluorite with a secondary growth of small fluorites on the Baryte blades. I'm sure you're as aware as I am that a lot of rare/uncommon material is only so because nobody has bothered to publish a paper on it. Some of us just like digging holes and hitting rocks with a big hammer!
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PostPosted: May 05, 2016 18:54    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through the regions of the UK - England / Cumbria  

I've seen plenty of fluorite-Baryte combos from North Yorkshire - Coldstones Quarry, Wetgrooves, etc. Weardale region's another story.
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PostPosted: May 20, 2017 16:17    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through the regions of the UK - England / Cumbria  

Kidney ore hematite from Kelton Fell mine, Kirkland, Cumbria. This mine was worked in the Ordovician rocks of the Lake District and not the carboniferous where most of Cumbria's hematite came from.


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 Mineral: Hematite
 Locality:
Kelton Fell Mine, Kirkland, West Cumberland Iron Field, former Cumberland, Cumbria, England / United Kingdom
 Dimensions: 6cm
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PostPosted: May 21, 2017 17:13    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through the regions of the UK - England / Cumbria  

Another kidney ore, this time from New Parkside mine, Frizington. This is from the shaft dump of pit no. 7.


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 Mineral: Hematite
 Locality:
New Parkside Mines, Pit No 7, Frizington, West Cumberland Iron Field, former Cumberland, Cumbria, England / United Kingdom
 Dimensions: 9cm
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PostPosted: May 21, 2017 17:23    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through the regions of the UK - England / Cumbria  

A thumbnail Hilton fluorite showing the 'Hilton blue' line just below the surface. This one is from the flats on Dowscar High Level.


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 Mineral: Fluorite
 Locality:
Hilton Mine, Scordale, Hilton, North Pennines Orefield, former Westmorland, Cumbria, England / United Kingdom
 Dimensions: 2.5cm
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 Viewed:  11658 Time(s)

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PostPosted: May 21, 2017 17:27    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through the regions of the UK - England / Cumbria  

Interesting edge-modification on this fluorite crystal from Birkett Common. It is approx. 6mm and associated with all sorts of other stuff !


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 Mineral: Fluorite
 Locality:
Birkett Common Mine, Mallerstang, North Pennines Orefield, former Westmorland, Cumbria, England / United Kingdom
 Dimensions: 6mm
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PostPosted: May 24, 2017 15:48    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through the regions of the UK - England / Cumbria  

In https://www.mineral-forum.com/message-board/viewtopic.php?p=57264#57264 colin robinson wrote:
Another kidney ore, this time from New Parkside mine, Frizington. This is from the shaft dump of pit no. 7.


Could I ask that when I add a picture with the location that the location is not altered to fit what might be in the database. New Parkside mine was a separate entity from Parkside mine and worked a different orebody.
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PostPosted: May 24, 2017 15:57    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through the regions of the UK - England / Cumbria  

Jackstraw cerussite crystals to 1cm from Barrow mina, Braithwaite, Cumbria.


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 Mineral: Cerussite
 Locality:
Barrow Mine, Braithwaite District, North Pennines Orefield, former Cumberland, Cumbria, England / United Kingdom
 Dimensions: 8cm
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PostPosted: May 24, 2017 16:04    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through the regions of the UK - England / Cumbria  

Double-terminated baryte crystals to 2cm with calcite from Frizington Parks mine.


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 Mineral: Baryte on Calcite
 Locality:
Frizington Parks (Iron Ore), Frizington, West Cumberland Iron Field, former Cumberland, Cumbria, England / United Kingdom
 Dimensions: 2cm
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 Viewed:  11497 Time(s)

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PostPosted: May 24, 2017 16:08    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through the regions of the UK - England / Cumbria  

Prismatic baryte crystals to 12mm from Kinniside mine.


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 Mineral: Baryte
 Locality:
Kinniside Mine, Cleator Moor, Copeland, West Cumberland Iron Field, former Cumberland, Cumbria, England / United Kingdom
 Dimensions: 12mm
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PostPosted: May 26, 2017 16:25    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through the regions of the UK - England / Cumbria  

Calcite crystals with hematite inclusions from Lonsdale Mine, Frizington.


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 Mineral: Calcite
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Lonsdale Mine, Frizington, West Cumberland Iron Field, former Cumberland, Cumbria, England / United Kingdom
 Dimensions: 8cm
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PostPosted: May 28, 2017 13:16    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through the regions of the UK - England / Cumbria  

colin robinson wrote:
In https://www.mineral-forum.com/message-board/viewtopic.php?p=57264#57264 colin robinson wrote:
Another kidney ore, this time from New Parkside mine, Frizington. This is from the shaft dump of pit no. 7.
Could I ask that when I add a picture with the location that the location is not altered to fit what might be in the database. New Parkside mine was a separate entity from Parkside mine and worked a different orebody.

Fixed Colin, thanks for the warning. We had many new localities on the last days and we were a little bit overwhelmed...

BTW, we have a section: Improving the FMF Data Base of localities where everyone can suggest changes or report errors in our localities.
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