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PostPosted: Jan 16, 2014 08:55    Post subject: A mineralogical trip through Germany / Sachsen - Saxony  

A large part of this Land, on the border with the Czech Republic, is covered by the Erzgebirge, which is German for “Ore Mountains”; a name that doesn’t need further explanation. Together with the Harz Mountains in the central north and the Black Forest in the southwest, these mountains were the most important mining region in German history. Legendary wire silvers, different lead and silver ores and once giant deposits of wonderful fluorites in all colors are only a few examples of the many minerals that once came from there. Besides the treasure chambers of that mountains, Saxony also features the famous Schneckenstein Rock – Europe’s only source for really fine gemmy topaz.


Fluorite - Zehntausend Ritter Mine_Kippenhain_Schreckenberg_Frohnau_Annaberg District_Erzgebirge_Saxony_Germany.JPG
 Description:
Fluorite
Zehntausend Ritter Mine, Kippenhain, Schreckenberg, Frohnau, Annaberg District, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
7 x 5,5 cm
Collection & Photo: Tobias Martin
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PostPosted: Jan 16, 2014 12:15    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through Germany / Sachsen - Saxony  

Penetration twin fluorite from Beihilfe Mine


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Fluorite
Beihilfe Mine, Halsbrucke, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
7x6x6 cm overall size
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PostPosted: Jan 16, 2014 14:15    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through Germany / Sachsen - Saxony  

Topaz on quartz from Schneckenstein


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 Description:
Topaz on Quartz
Schneckenstein, Vogtland, Saxony, Germany
crystal is 1.5 cm tall.
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PostPosted: Jan 16, 2014 22:49    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through Germany / Sachsen - Saxony  

Fluorite, galena, quartz, and unidentified reddish mineral.
-> Most likely sphalerite (Tobi)



FluoriteSaxony.jpg
 Description:
Fluorite, Galena, Quartz
Churprinz Friedrich August Erbstolln Mine , Großschirma, Freiberg District, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
11.3 x 7.2 cm
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GalenaDetail.jpg
 Description:
Fluorite, Galena, Quartz
Churprinz Friedrich August Erbstolln Mine , Großschirma, Freiberg District, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany

Galena Detail
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 Description:
Fluorite, Galena, Quartz, Sphalerite (?)
Churprinz Friedrich August Erbstolln Mine , Großschirma, Freiberg District, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany

Unidentified
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PostPosted: Jan 17, 2014 02:26    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through Germany / Sachsen - Saxony  

Nice topaz, Jesse! Here's another specimen of Germany's only "gem classic":


Schneckenstein.JPG
 Description:
Topaz
Schneckenstein, Vogtland, Saxony, Germany
4,5 x 4 cm, crystal measures 1 cm
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PostPosted: Jan 17, 2014 05:48    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through Germany / Sachsen - Saxony  

There are other European topaz occurences that gave gemmy material (even in Germany), think of the Ural mountains. The Schneckenstein is, however, the best known German locality. Saxony i would consider the mother country of mineralogy.


Amethyst (Purschenstein).jpg
 Description:
Amethyst
Heidelbach, Purschenstein, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
4 x 3,5 cm
The legendary "Purschenstein amethyst", a Saxonian rarity. The colour of that material is distinctive.
 Viewed:  28291 Time(s)

Amethyst (Purschenstein).jpg



Baryt (Halsbrücke).jpg
 Description:
Baryte
Beihilfe mine, Halsbrücke, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
12 x 8 cm
 Viewed:  27743 Time(s)

Baryt (Halsbrücke).jpg



Galenit (Sauberg).jpg
 Description:
Galena, marcasite
Sauberg mine, Ehrenfriedersdorf, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
8 x 3 cm
Ex University of Rostock collection
 Viewed:  27724 Time(s)

Galenit (Sauberg).jpg



Kassiterit (Sauberg).jpg
 Description:
Cassiterite, fluorite, arsenopyrite
Sauberg mine, Ehrenfriedersdorf, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
5,5 x 4,5 cm
 Viewed:  27763 Time(s)

Kassiterit (Sauberg).jpg



Lockensilber (Brand-Erbisdorf).jpg
 Description:
Silver, calcite
Himmelsfürst mine, Brand-Erbisdorf, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
3 x 2 cm
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PostPosted: Jan 17, 2014 13:18    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through Germany / Sachsen - Saxony  

Here is another photo of the Schneckenstein topaz, along with an old label that came with it. Can anyone give any information about the dealer or collector who's label this was?


T001-8071r.jpg
 Description:
Topaz on Quartz
Schneckenstein, Vogtland, Saxony, Germany
5x5x3 cm overall size
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PostPosted: Jan 17, 2014 14:27    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through Germany / Sachsen - Saxony  

Jesse Fisher wrote:
Here is another photo of the Schneckenstein topaz, along with an old label that came with it. Can anyone give any information about the dealer or collector who's label this was?

"The famous mining academy in Freiberg, Germany was founded in November 1765 by Prince Xavier of Kursachsen, and its mineral museum was founded at the same time, probably based initially on the collection formed by C.E. Gellert (1713-1795). In 1767 the Academy established its own mineral dealership (Niederlage), probably for the purpose of supplying students with study specimens for their own collections. It eventually expanded to supply specimens and geological/mineralogical equipment to schools, students and collectors throughout Germany, Europe and America, advertising minerals, ores, rocks and fossils, in large collections and as individual specimens." - W. E. Wilson (2012)

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https://www.thetricottetcollection.com/bio_Freiberg.html
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PostPosted: Jan 17, 2014 14:46    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through Germany / Sachsen - Saxony  

Thank you. With my admittedly rudimentary understanding of German, I thought "niederlage" meant "defeat," which makes little sense in the context of a mineral label.
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PostPosted: Jan 18, 2014 12:46    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through Germany / Sachsen - Saxony  

Jesse Fisher wrote:
Thank you. With my admittedly rudimentary understanding of German, I thought "niederlage" meant "defeat," which makes little sense in the context of a mineral label.

Hi Jesse, don't worry about what you know about German language: "Niederlage" IS also the word for defeat (but once was used for a company's store, too).

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PostPosted: Jan 19, 2014 14:36    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through Germany / Sachsen - Saxony  

Fluorite with Baryte, Pohla, Erzgebirge. I do not know the exact mine location for this specimen, can anyone help?


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Fluorite with Baryte
Pohla, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
14x8x5 cm overall size
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PostPosted: Jan 20, 2014 07:19    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through Germany / Sachsen - Saxony  

Hi,

the mine was named Pöhla too. Sometimes you may see the expression "Wismutschacht". Pöhla was an uranium mine and "Wismut" the mining company, said in general parlance.

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PostPosted: Jan 21, 2014 06:52    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through Germany / Sachsen - Saxony  

The Sauberg mine near Ehrenfriedersdorf is one of the best-known Saxonian mines. Ehrenfriedersdorf is a very old tin mining district - so it´s not surprising that the locality is famous for cassiterite crystals. Other minerals worth mentioning are colourful apatites, good fluorite specimens, wolframite and quartz crystals as well as some rare minerals like herderite (type locality). The silver minerals are the treasures of every local collection but never reached the quality of the Freiberg or Schlema/Schneeberg specimens. Attached some samples from Sauberg mine which are all no museum specimens but some of those are rarely shown.


Apatit (Sauberg).jpg
 Description:
Apatite
Einigkeiter mine, Sauberg, Ehrenfriedersdorf, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
6 x 4 cm
Old specimen from the 1850s.
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Apatit (Sauberg).jpg



Fluorit (Sauberg).JPG
 Description:
Fluorite
Sauberg mine, Ehrenfriedersdorf, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
6,5 x 5 cm
 Viewed:  27448 Time(s)

Fluorit (Sauberg).JPG



Hornstein (Sauberg).jpg
 Description:
Fluorite, quartz
Einigkeiter mine, Sauberg, Ehrenfriedersdorf, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
6,5 x 5 cm
A rare variety of fluorite from 243 working, collected in 1957.
 Viewed:  27348 Time(s)

Hornstein (Sauberg).jpg



Milchquarz (Sauberg).jpg
 Description:
Quartz, hematite
Sauberg mine, Ehrenfriedersdorf, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
15 x 9 cm
An older specimen from the so-called "pole´s vug", 5654 working, 5th level. This quartz vug got it´s name from polish miners in the Sauberg mine. Very rare material.
 Viewed:  27422 Time(s)

Milchquarz (Sauberg).jpg



Wellencalcit (Sauberg).jpg
 Description:
Calcite
Sauberg mine, Ehrenfriedersdorf, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
5,5 x 4,5 cm
The so-called "wave calcite" from the "Dölling vug", 6018 working, 6th level (found 1982 by Walther Dölling).
 Viewed:  27379 Time(s)

Wellencalcit (Sauberg).jpg


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PostPosted: Jan 21, 2014 06:59    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through Germany / Sachsen - Saxony  

A Saxonian region that is - let me put it this way - not that famous beyond the German borders is Upper Lusatia (Oberlausitz). It´s the north-eastern part of Saxony between Dresden and Brandenburg, known cities are Bautzen, Görlitz; Hoyerswerda and Radeberg (think of the beer...).

Fine smoky quartzes as well as feldspar crystals, rare fluorites, Be- and REE-minerals come from the Königshain granite quarries near Görlitz, the Pansberg quarry near Horscha is a locality for good variscites and wavellites, the Klunst quarry near Ebersbach gave zeolite minerals, nice epidote and calcite crystals. Two other places that should be mentioned are the Ossling quarry near Hoyerswerda (big, clear rock crystals, anatase, titanite) and the nickel mine near Sohland (pentlandite).

All Upper Lusatian localities don´t play a big role in the mineral world but things like 6 cm molybdenite crystals from Königshain are not bad at all, i´d say. Here are some samples from my collection:



Amazonit (Hilbersdorf).JPG
 Description:
Amazonite
Hilbersdorf quarry, Königshain, Görlitz, Upper Lusatia, Saxony, Germany
8,5 x 6 cm
 Viewed:  27362 Time(s)

Amazonit (Hilbersdorf).JPG



Fluorit (Arnsdorf).JPG
 Description:
Fluorite
Arnsdorf quarry, Königshain, Görlitz, Upper Lusatia, Saxony, Germany
2,5 cm crystal
 Viewed:  27352 Time(s)

Fluorit (Arnsdorf).JPG



Molybdänit (Königshain).jpg
 Description:
Molybdenite
Königshain, Görlitz, Upper Lusatia, Saxony, Germany
3 x 2 cm
 Viewed:  27330 Time(s)

Molybdänit (Königshain).jpg



Dravit (Radeberg).jpg
 Description:
Dravite
Hüttermühle, Radeberg, Upper Lusatia, Saxony, Germany
7 x 2,5 cm
 Viewed:  27360 Time(s)

Dravit (Radeberg).jpg



Bergkristall fac (Oßling).jpg
 Description:
Quartz
Oßling quarry, Hoyerswerda, Upper Lusatia, Saxony, Germany
1 x 1 cm
Rock crystal
 Viewed:  27310 Time(s)

Bergkristall fac (Oßling).jpg



Pyrrhotin (Sohland).jpg
 Description:
Pentlandite, pyrrhotite
Nickel mine, Sohland, Upper Lusatia, Saxony, Germany
6 x 6 cm
 Viewed:  27353 Time(s)

Pyrrhotin (Sohland).jpg



Heulandit (Klunst).jpg
 Description:
Heulandite
Klunst quarry, Ebersbach, Upper Lusatia, Saxony, Germany
11 x 5 cm
 Viewed:  27392 Time(s)

Heulandit (Klunst).jpg



Variscit (Horscha).jpg
 Description:
Variscite
Pansberg quarry, Horscha, Upper Lusatia, Saxony, Germany
6,5 x 5 cm
 Viewed:  27384 Time(s)

Variscit (Horscha).jpg


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PostPosted: Jan 22, 2014 07:55    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through Germany / Sachsen - Saxony  

Mixed Saxon specimens


Pyromorphit (Zschopau).JPG
 Description:
Pyromorphite
Heilige Dreifaltigkeit mine, Zschopau, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
4,5 cm crystal
 Viewed:  27247 Time(s)

Pyromorphit (Zschopau).JPG



Pyknit (Altenberg).jpg
 Description:
Topaz var. pyknite, zinnwaldite, quartz
Altenberg, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
9 x 7,5 cm
 Viewed:  27357 Time(s)

Pyknit (Altenberg).jpg



Almandin (Ansprung).jpg
 Description:
Almandine
Ansprung, Zöblitz, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
2 cm crystal
 Viewed:  27320 Time(s)

Almandin (Ansprung).jpg



Emplektit (Altenberg).JPG
 Description:
Emplectite, fluorite, hematite
Altenberg, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
Picture width: 7 cm
 Viewed:  27353 Time(s)

Emplektit (Altenberg).JPG



Helvin (Antonsthal).JPG
 Description:
Helvite
Unverhofft Glück mine, Antonsthal, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
Largest crystal: 4 mm
 Viewed:  27298 Time(s)

Helvin (Antonsthal).JPG



Baryt (Zobes).JPG
 Description:
Baryte, quartz
Zentralschacht, Zobes, Vogtland, Saxony, Germany
6 x 4 cm
 Viewed:  27254 Time(s)

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Limonit (Leubetha).jpg
 Description:
Limonite
Eiserner Bauer mine, Leubetha, Vogtland, Saxony, Germany
11 x 8 cm
 Viewed:  27316 Time(s)

Limonit (Leubetha).jpg



Chrysotil (Zöblitz).jpg
 Description:
Chrysotile
Zöblitz, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
13 x 5,5 cm
 Viewed:  27328 Time(s)

Chrysotil (Zöblitz).jpg



Blätterspat (Schneeberg).jpg
 Description:
Calcite
Schneeberg, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
8 x 4 cm
 Viewed:  27290 Time(s)

Blätterspat (Schneeberg).jpg



Fluorit (Pöhla).jpg
 Description:
Fluorite
24 shaft, Pöhla, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
3 x 2 cm
Rare colour for Pöhla.
 Viewed:  27296 Time(s)

Fluorit (Pöhla).jpg



Doppelspat (Rabenstein).jpg
 Description:
Calcite
Rabenstein limestone mine, Chemnitz, Saxony, Germany
3 x 2,5 cm
 Viewed:  27289 Time(s)

Doppelspat (Rabenstein).jpg


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PostPosted: Jan 22, 2014 11:59    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through Germany / Sachsen - Saxony  

Fluorite, Frohnau, Erzgebirge


F305-7813.jpg
 Description:
Fluorite
Nowaja Schacht, Frohnau, Annaberg-Bucholz, Erzgebirge, Saxony
11x9x3 cm overall size
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PostPosted: Jan 23, 2014 07:50    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through Germany / Sachsen - Saxony  

Rarities with their type locality in Saxony: chapmanite and emplectite. Both minerals occured only once more after the type discovery, emplectite in the 1980s in a few micromount samples and chapmanite in a single cabinet piece in 2002. Here are two oldtimers:


Emplektit (Erla).jpg
 Description:
Emplectite, siderite, quartz
Tannenbaum adit, Erla, Johanngeorgenstadt, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
10 x 8,5 cm
With old Maucher label.
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Emplektit (Erla).jpg



Chapmanit (Bräunsdorf).jpg
 Description:
Chapmanite
Neue Hoffnung Gottes mine, Bräunsdorf, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
1,5 x 1,2 / 3,8 x 2,5 cm
With 1850s Bergakademie Freiberg label.
 Viewed:  27210 Time(s)

Chapmanit (Bräunsdorf).jpg


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PostPosted: Jan 28, 2014 06:54    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through Germany / Sachsen - Saxony  

The pyromorphite from Zschopau was already shown before, here´s another classic from there - the so-called "Blaubleierz". Zschopau was one of the first known occurences of this always sought-after pseudomorphs. This old sample comes from the collection of Fritz Seliger who served as a prospector for the last German emperor.


Blaubleierz (Zschopau).jpg
 Description:
Galena (pseudomorph after pyromorphite)
Heilige Dreifaltigkeit mine, Zschopau, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
5 x 3 cm
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PostPosted: Feb 03, 2014 17:30    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through Germany / Sachsen - Saxony  

A rare mineral from the granulites in Waldheim (type locality): prismatine, which was believed to be kornerupine for a long time.


Sin título-1.jpg
 Description:
Prismatine
Granulite outcrop, Waldheim, Döbeln, Saxony, Germany
2'5 x 3'5 cm.
Long dark prismatine crystals in a classical granulite.
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PostPosted: Feb 04, 2014 10:29    Post subject: Re: A mineralogical trip through Germany / Sachsen - Saxony  

Another Saxon fluorite:


Wolkenstein1.JPG
 Description:
Fluorite
Wolkenstein, Marienberg District, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
Specimen size 6 cm, largest fluorite cube 6 mm
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Wolkenstein3.JPG
 Description:
Fluorite
Wolkenstein, Marienberg District, Erzgebirge, Saxony, Germany
Specimen height 6 cm, largest fluorite cube 6 mm
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