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PostPosted: Jan 07, 2017 11:25    Post subject: Favourite Tourmalines?  

What are your favourite TOURMALINE localities, varieties and habits? My favourites are:

- Bi- oder multi-coloured Elbaite from Brazil, Pakistan, Afghanistan (and of course the famous Bluecaps from California)
- Rubellite, Indicolite and Verdelite with vivid colours (from the same countries as mentioned above)
- Lustrous Schorl on white matrix from Pakistan



CruzELB-black.JPG
 Mineral: Elbaite
 Locality:
Cruzeiro Mine, São José da Safira, Governador Valadares, Vale do Rio Doce, Minas Gerais, Brazil
 Dimensions: Crystal height 4 cm
 Description:
My collection
 Viewed:  22571 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Elbaite
 Locality:
Paprok, Kamdesh District, Nuristan Province, Afghanistan
 Dimensions: Crystal height 3,3 cm
 Description:
My collection
 Viewed:  22511 Time(s)

Paprok.JPG



JequiELBAIT.JPG
 Mineral: Elbaite on Quartz
 Locality:
Minas Gerais, Brazil
 Dimensions: Specimen height 5 cm
 Description:
My collection
 Viewed:  22525 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Elbaite with Albite
 Locality:
Stak Nala, Haramosh Mountains, Baltistan District, Gilgit-Baltistan (Northern Areas), Pakistan
 Dimensions: Crystal height 4,5 cm
 Description:
My collection
 Viewed:  22525 Time(s)

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Piaui-ELB.JPG
 Mineral: Elbaite with Lepidolite
 Locality:
Minas Gerais, Brazil
 Dimensions: Crystal height 4 cm
 Description:
My collection
 Viewed:  22536 Time(s)

Piaui-ELB.JPG



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 Mineral: Elbaite
 Locality:
Pederneira Claim, São José da Safira, Governador Valadares, Vale do Rio Doce, Minas Gerais, Brazil
 Dimensions: Crystal height 8 cm
 Description:
Collection Mineralogical Museum Marburg (my photo)
 Viewed:  22541 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Jan 07, 2017 13:22    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

In answer to your question any Tourmaline from San Diego County. These are just two of mine. The Blue Cap has been in my collection since it was mined, and the other one was self collected in the mine with John McLean and Josie Scripps 7/8/74.


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 Mineral: Tourmaline (Group)
 Locality:
Tourmaline Queen Mine, Tourmaline Queen Mountain, Montaña Tourmaline Queen, Pala, Pala District, San Diego County, California, USA
 Dimensions: 3.8cm x 2.6cm
 Description:
 Viewed:  22593 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Tourmaline (Group)
 Locality:
Tourmaline Queen Mine, Tourmaline Queen Mountain, Montaña Tourmaline Queen, Pala, Pala District, San Diego County, California, USA
 Dimensions: 2.7cm x 3.8cm
 Description:
 Viewed:  22476 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Jan 07, 2017 13:49    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

One of the first tourmaline specimens I ever acquired, an old one from the Himalaya Mine, San Diego. The piece likely dates from the Ralph Potter era in the 1950s and is typical of what was found on the north end of the property during that time.


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 Mineral: Elbaite, Quartz
 Locality:
Himalaya Mine, Gem Hill, Mesa Grande District, San Diego County, California, USA
 Dimensions: 6x6x5 cm overall size
 Description:
 Viewed:  22467 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Jan 07, 2017 16:03    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

I am fond of the Mexquitic Fluor-Buergerite locality material,,,because it is nearly unique and because of the lovely root-beer brown sheen shown by the well-formed crystals. The locality is considered "lost" by many but is known to the older locals in Mexquitic. It appears to be very thoroughly worked out


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 Mineral: Fluor-buergerite
 Locality:
Municipio Mexquitic de Carmona, San Luis Potosí, Mexico
 Dimensions: 10 x 8 x 4
 Description:
Peter Megaw specimen, Jeff Scovil photograph
 Viewed:  22489 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Jan 07, 2017 16:19    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

A bit of an aside - Peter, is there buergerite from any other locality in the same general area, or in Mexico as a whole, for that matter?!
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PostPosted: Jan 07, 2017 16:32    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

this one is from south of France.
It is not mine.



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 Mineral: Schorl
 Locality:
La Salvetat-sur-Agout, Saint-Pons-de-Thomières, Béziers District, Hérault, Occitanie, France
 Dimensions: 50mm X 50mm x40mm
 Description:
 Viewed:  22406 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Jan 07, 2017 16:33    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

I'm not inclined to turn my nose up at almost any decent elbaite crystal, but one of my favorite tourmalines is an emerald green vanadian uvite from Mogok, Myanmar. Unfortunately, I don't have an image of it.

Also neat, also unphotographed, are the squat red and green uvites from Brumado.

Finally, some neat elbaites from the Havey Quarry in Maine. Not large, but self-collected several years ago. The caps may be foitite, analyses pending.



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 Mineral: Elbaite
 Locality:
Berry-Havey Quarry (Havey Quarry), Poland, Androscoggin County, Maine, USA
 Dimensions: 1 cm tall
 Description:
 Viewed:  22401 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Elbaite
 Locality:
Berry-Havey Quarry (Havey Quarry), Poland, Androscoggin County, Maine, USA
 Dimensions: 5 mm tall
 Description:
 Viewed:  22370 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Elbaite
 Locality:
Berry-Havey Quarry (Havey Quarry), Poland, Androscoggin County, Maine, USA
 Dimensions: 3 mm tall
 Description:
black cap may be foitite
 Viewed:  22399 Time(s)

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Elbaite 4A.JPG
 Mineral: Elbaite
 Locality:
Berry-Havey Quarry (Havey Quarry), Poland, Androscoggin County, Maine, USA
 Dimensions: 3 mm tall
 Description:
Same crystal, with illumination from a different direction.
 Viewed:  22403 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Jan 08, 2017 01:19    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

Hi,
Here is a elbaite crystal that I like.
While color changes are often zoned in the direction of elongation, this crystal is zoned by its final growth in scepter.



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 Mineral: Elbaite
 Locality:
Barra de Salinas, Coronel Murta, Jequitinhonha, Minas Gerais, Brazil
 Description:
 Viewed:  22265 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Jan 08, 2017 02:45    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

Great piece, Roger!
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PostPosted: Jan 08, 2017 04:38    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

An elbaite of the type locality, Island of Elba.


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 Mineral: Elbaite
 Locality:
Elba Island, Livorno Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 3 cm high
 Description:
 Viewed:  22195 Time(s)

006-Elbaite5795_R.jpg



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 Mineral: Tourmaline (Group)
 Locality:
Paprok, Kamdesh District, Nuristan Province, Afghanistan
 Dimensions: 7 cm
 Description:
A nice duo.
 Viewed:  22210 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Jan 08, 2017 05:53    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

Awesome Paprok specimen, Roger!!!
And you're right, specimens from Elba are great:



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 Mineral: Elbaite
 Locality:
Grotta d'Oggi Quarry, San Piero in Campo, Campo nell'Elba, Elba Island, Livorno Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: Specimen size 12 cm
 Description:
Collection Mineralogical Museum Marburg (my photo)
 Viewed:  22169 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Jan 09, 2017 12:15    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

For those who don't need a lot of bright colors to get excited about their tourmaline, here's a nice schorl group from Pakistan.


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 Mineral: Schorl, Albite, Quartz
 Locality:
Shengus (Shingus), Baltistan District, Gilgit-Baltistan (Northern Areas), Pakistan
 Dimensions: 7x7x4 cm overall size
 Description:
 Viewed:  22024 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Jan 09, 2017 12:23    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

Jesse Fisher wrote:
For those who don't need a lot of bright colors to get excited about their tourmaline, here's a nice schorl group from Pakistan.
Indeed VERY nice! Maybe no bright colours, but the best possible colour contrast and thus a very beautiful specimen :-)
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PostPosted: Jan 10, 2017 17:23    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

Here comes one that seems have inspired to architects:


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 Mineral: Elbaite
 Locality:
Paprok, Kamdesh District, Nuristan Province, Afghanistan
 Dimensions: 10 x 2 x 2 cm
 Description:
 Viewed:  21808 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Jan 11, 2017 09:51    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

Another elbaite from the type locality, San Piero, Island of Elba


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 Mineral: Elbaite
 Locality:
Grotta d'Oggi Quarry, San Piero in Campo, Campo nell'Elba, Elba Island, Livorno Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Description:
 Viewed:  21734 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Jan 11, 2017 10:39    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

What has become of the beautiful "Rose of Itatiaia"? (with cleavelandite).


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 Mineral: Elbaite
 Locality:
Itatiaia, Conselheiro Pena, Vale do Rio Doce, Minas Gerais, Brazil
 Dimensions: 25 cm ?
 Description:
with cleavelanditeMunich EXPO 2003.
 Viewed:  21639 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Jan 14, 2017 12:40    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

Roger Warin wrote:
What has become of the beautiful "Rose of Itatiaia"?
Elbaite
Itatiaia, Conselheiro Pena, Vale do Rio Doce, Minas Gerais, Brazil
Dimensions: 25 cm ?
It was once was in Keith Proctor's collection and he sold it to Sheikh Saud al Thani from Qatar who died some years ago. I don't know for sure, but I think it is in a museum in Qatar since Saud al Thani passed away ...

By the way: I don't think this specimen is "only" about 25 cm, rather 40 ;-)
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PostPosted: Jan 14, 2017 13:54    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

More info in the always so useful Biographical Archive of the Mineralogical Record
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PostPosted: Jan 14, 2017 14:04    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

In https://www.mineral-forum.com/message-board/viewtopic.php?p=54984#54984 Pete Richards wrote:
...Finally, some neat elbaites from the Havey Quarry in Maine. Not large, but self-collected several years ago. The caps may be foitite, analyses pending.

Pete, those Havey finds are now my favorites. Thanks for the images.
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PostPosted: Jan 14, 2017 14:59    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

My favorite from Mexico. We do not see a lot of these older elbaite from Baja California. This one was acquired from Dave Bunk in September 2014 with other labels from collector Gene Laberge #519, November 1989 and dealers Mark and Jeannette Rogers.


0904 - Tourmaline Elbaite Delicias Ensenada Baja California Norte.jpg
 Mineral: Elbaite
 Locality:
Delicias Mine, Rancho Los Pocitos, Municipio Ensenada, Baja California, Mexico
 Dimensions: 4.5 x 1.2 x 1 cm
 Description:
Photo credit is likely Jesse La Plante
 Viewed:  21436 Time(s)

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