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PostPosted: Feb 08, 2018 09:57    Post subject: Green quartz - Hungary  

Hi all,

I have been trying to research this specimen and have come up blank. Unfortunately, the only information I have is what is shown on the two labels.

Can anyone offer any suggestions for the location?

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 Mineral: Quartz
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 Dimensions: 10.0 x 9.0 cm
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 Mineral: Quartz
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PostPosted: Feb 08, 2018 10:21    Post subject: Re: Green quartz - Hungary  

I cannot deliver a locality but a piece of advice that might be useful: Keep in mind when the original label (of Steve Buckland) was from. After WW1 at the Treaty of Trianon 2/3 of the area of Hungary was taken away, including practically all the best mineral localities, mainly in Transylvania. Hence if the original site info is referring to pre-Trianon Hungary your scope of search is much bigger (most probably Transylvania).

In the current Hungary the richest locality for quartz specimens is Gyöngyösoroszi (Matra mountains).
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PostPosted: Feb 09, 2018 06:22    Post subject: Re: Green quartz - Hungary  

Thanks for the reply and for the advice regarding the changing of Hungarian borders.

Both labels are relatively modern but that doesn't mean that the specimen itself is modern - as any earlier labels may have been lost or thrown away.

I was hoping that someone may have had knowledge of similar pieces. It is a nice specimen in good condition and I really don't want to consign it to the 'orphan' bin yet.

As we see so many times, it does highlight how important labels and proper cataloguing are if we want to save such specimens from just becoming a pretty garden rock.
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PostPosted: Feb 09, 2018 06:57    Post subject: Re: Green quartz - Hungary  

Quartz is a very common mineral - even in XX like you have. I'm sure there are many locations in Hungary with quartz like that. I once edited the book 'Minerals of the Carpathians' - and in there under Quartz and Hungary will be many locations and a few photos. You can look for something similar in Mindat, but you will have to look through many hundreds of photos. In my collection are some minerals that only have the country and nothing more...and sometimes by chance one finds a photo or specimen that makes one think [one can usually NOT be sure] that your specimen came from the same locality. Only sophisticated testing for trace elements in the matrix might tell exactly where - but it is too expensive and the specimen is not that special to do such. No need to throw it away if you like it.
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PostPosted: Feb 10, 2018 06:45    Post subject: Re: Green quartz - Hungary  

Hi Peter,

Yes, i agree with what you say and thanks for the reply.

I couldn't find anything similar after going through the photos in Mindat and so thought it best to ask on FMF to see if anyone could give any suggestions. Even a general area would still be a help (and improvement on the labels) if, as we know, the actual location can probably no longer be determined 100% accurately.

Although it is a common quartz specimen, i felt it was unusual enough to justify trying to research it.
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PostPosted: Feb 11, 2018 04:19    Post subject: Re: Green quartz - Hungary  

I'm not sure it is so unusual. I have many quartz specimens like that from various digs I have done in the USA - distant from one another. Yes, more often it doesn't contain chlorite or whatever the dull-green inclusion or surface mineral is, but often it does and looks much like that.
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