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PostPosted: Aug 27, 2018 17:08    Post subject: Help identifying mineral like brookite.  

Hi, can you help me please to get a clue what mineral it could be.

It is associated with smoky quartz, orthoclase and stellerite.

it looks very similar to brookite and topaz but really I have no idea of what it really is.

Hardness : slightly scratches the glass and easily scratched by quartz.

Fracture : Irregular

thanks in advance.

Ricardo.



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PostPosted: Aug 27, 2018 17:34    Post subject: Re: Help identifying mineral like brookite.  

Ricardo, can you tell us where this specimen is from?
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PostPosted: Aug 27, 2018 17:47    Post subject: Re: Help identifying mineral like brookite.  

crosstimber wrote:
Ricardo, can you tell us where this specimen is from?



Mmmm I fill the field..., it is from Veracruz, México.
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PostPosted: Aug 27, 2018 19:40    Post subject: Re: Help identifying mineral like brookite.  

Titanite
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PostPosted: Aug 28, 2018 01:08    Post subject: Re: Help identifying mineral like brookite.  

Hi,
I don’t discern the crystal well but I think of a quartz crystal distorted laterally, with 2 different ternary axes. Pseudocubic habit.
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PostPosted: Aug 28, 2018 03:53    Post subject: Re: Help identifying mineral like brookite.  

marco campos-venuti wrote:
Titanite

I agree, it seems to be Titanite.
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PostPosted: Aug 28, 2018 06:49    Post subject: Re: Help identifying mineral like brookite.  

Hi Jordi, Marco,
I respect your experience, but I still doubt.
Ricardo said the mineral is associated with smoky quartz, orthoclase and stellerite.
The unknown crystal seems intimately fixed to smoked quartz, isn’t?
I show a pseudo-cubic quartz from Madagascar. The similarity is great with the IMG1804.



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 Mineral: Quartz (variety amethyst)
 Locality:
Antandrokomby pegmatite, Manandona Valley, Sahatany Valley (Mt. Ibity), Vakinankaratra Region, Antananarivo Province, Madagascar
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A pseudo-cubic habit
 Viewed:  1816 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Aug 28, 2018 07:58    Post subject: Re: Help identifying mineral like brookite.  

In the Alps there are plenty of places where titanites are very similar in color and shape to this crystal.
You can also check titanites from Imilchil, Morocco.
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PostPosted: Aug 28, 2018 12:32    Post subject: Re: Help identifying mineral like brookite.  

thanks for your guide, hardness match better with Titanite, of course we need the analysis.

Will share with you more tests.
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PostPosted: Aug 28, 2018 14:46    Post subject: Re: Help identifying mineral like brookite.  

Is the top crystal the same mineral as the one below it?

It appears to be orthorhombic - is it?

I doubt the identification with titanite. The triangular face is not one seen on titanite, and all faces are clearer of striations than I would expect.
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PostPosted: Aug 29, 2018 00:32    Post subject: Re: Help identifying mineral like brookite.  

Hi,
Quartz in pseudo-cubic habit can assume the appearance of an orthorhombic or even tetragonal prism.
However, there is Ricardo's observation:
Hardness: slightly scratches the glass and easily scratched by quartz.
Mohs hardness of glass: 5.5 and of titanite: 5.0 to 5.5.



149-Ameth-Madag5255_R.jpg
 Mineral: Quartz (variety amethyst)
 Locality:
Antandrokomby pegmatite, Manandona Valley, Sahatany Valley (Mt. Ibity), Vakinankaratra Region, Antananarivo Province, Madagascar
 Description:
 Viewed:  1687 Time(s)

149-Ameth-Madag5255_R.jpg



150-Amethys-Madag5253_R.jpg
 Mineral: Quartz (variety amethyst)
 Locality:
Antandrokomby pegmatite, Manandona Valley, Sahatany Valley (Mt. Ibity), Vakinankaratra Region, Antananarivo Province, Madagascar
 Description:
 Viewed:  1686 Time(s)

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