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PostPosted: Feb 12, 2023 14:54    Post subject: Galena Spinel law  

I have been a collector for many years because crystals are beautiful. However, until recently I have not paid much attention to crystal habits. I know that what I am asking is a very simple thing for "you guys" to answer. I believe the the galena I have posted shows spinel law twining. Is this true? Also, I purchased this specimen many years ago, but where it was collected was unknown. Any ideas where it could be from? Thank you!


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 Mineral: Galena
 Dimensions: 11.4 cm x 7 cm x 7 cm
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Galena 3.jpg
 Dimensions: 11.4 cm x 7 cm x 7 cm
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Appears to be dolomite, chalcopyrite and sphalerite.
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PostPosted: Feb 12, 2023 16:14    Post subject: Re: Galena Spinel law  

Please provide a picture from above relative to the first picture you posted. These are crystals combining the octahedron and the dodecahedron (I think), but it is not clear from these views whether they are twinned or not. Possible but not certain.

Also a picture showing the surface detail on the big face in the front of the first picture would help.

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PostPosted: Feb 12, 2023 16:29    Post subject: Re: Galena Spinel law  

This is a top view.


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PostPosted: Feb 12, 2023 17:18    Post subject: Re: Galena Spinel law  

This doesn't look like the galena spinel twins I have in my collection, which are usually thin plates. I agree with Pete Richards--they appear to be cubes modified by octahedron faces.
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PostPosted: Feb 12, 2023 18:10    Post subject: Re: Galena Spinel law  

Crystal faces that belong to different forms often differ in their surface features, like luster, growth hillocks, steps, dents or other patterns.
These features vary a lot between different specimens, but on the individual specimen the faces of one form often have very similar surface features.
This can help to identify twins, because you can "group" faces by their surface patterns and see if they form an "imaginary crystal form" that matches what you would expect too see in an individual crystal or twin.
I mention this because the differences between the faces are very obvious on your specimen.

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PostPosted: Feb 12, 2023 18:28    Post subject: Re: Galena Spinel law  

This is photo of the larger crystal with a view of the bottom.


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PostPosted: Feb 12, 2023 21:33    Post subject: Re: Galena Spinel law  

No indication of twinning is indicated by the new views of this specimen. It is a group of crystals, or one incompletely developed crystal, combining faces of the cube and the octahedron. Cube faces are relatively flat, sometimes showing square plates or thin layers suggestive of the cleavage of galena; octahedral faces are more irregular in texture and are equilateral triangles, often truncated.

Spinel twins of galena are usually flattened parallel to the octahedral twin plane, as Bob Carnein said; no evidence of this twinning-altered morphology is seen here.

Galena spinel twins, in my experience, rarely occur singly, but occur in multiples, often as clusters of parallel or near parallel twins. They often have hexagonal outlines. One example is shown here, poorly photographed by my phone.



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 Mineral: Galena spinel twin
 Locality:
Pachapaqui mining district, Pachapaqui, Aquia District, Bolognesi Province, Ancash Department, Peru
 Dimensions: specimen 6 cm long
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View onto octahedral face of galena spinel twin, parallel to the twin plane
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 Mineral: Galena spinel twins
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Pachapaqui mining district, Pachapaqui, Aquia District, Bolognesi Province, Ancash Department, Peru
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View onto edges of twins
 Viewed:  5641 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Feb 12, 2023 21:56    Post subject: Re: Galena Spinel law  

Thank you for the help, explanation and photos!
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PostPosted: Feb 13, 2023 03:55    Post subject: Re: Galena Spinel law  

John Hodgson wrote:
[...]Any ideas where it could be from? Thank you!
The crystal habit and the view on the backside tell me this galena could be from Picher Field / Oklahoma ...
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