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Tobi
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Posted: Aug 11, 2024 09:54 Post subject: Question from a new user concerning a mineral from Kaiserstuhl/Germany |
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Our new member jvanko joined us with a question concerning this older specimen from southern Germany. He posted it in the Baden-Wuerttemberg section of the mineralogical journey through Germany which is not wrong but I think the section should be for the presentation of minerals and not for specimens that have questions. I think this topic fits better in this part of the forum, here are his question and his photo:
jvanko wrote: | I obtained a specimen that appears identical to Pablo Rodriguez Cantos's Limburgite (posted Feb. 18, 2014). Mine came with a label "Hyalosiderite", "High iren Olivine", "Kaiserstuhl, Baden", and the specimen number 425. This label is handwritten and appears very similar to those shown by Andreas Gerstenberg with other specimens on the same thread, same date. My question is, does anyone recognize the handwriting? Could this be a specimen from a university collection in Freiburg? Or is it a private collector? Any guess of its age? |
@jvanko, it's correct that this is a so-called limburgite, consisting of black augite, white philipsite and brown olivine. And hyalosiderite is the name for iron-rich olivine in that area. But I must confess I can't answer your questions concerning the age or the collection ... I will ask Andreas Gerstenberg.
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Tobi
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Posted: Aug 11, 2024 10:11 Post subject: Re: Question from a new user concerning a mineral from Kaiserstuhl/Germany |
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P.S. Andreas' very quick response via WhatsApp: He doesn't know the collection. He fears someone might have written the label on an older piece of paper and that it could be "only" around 40 years old. If really older, he guesses that it is not older than from the 1930s.
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jvanko
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Posted: Aug 11, 2024 13:20 Post subject: Re: Question from a new user concerning a mineral from Kaiserstuhl/Germany |
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Tobi - Thank you for contacting Andreas. He has posted numerous examples of specimens from Baden which include labels not unlike mine. I was hoping he would recognize similar labels in his collection and thereby identify the collector.
Note the label contains "High iren Olivine" in English for a specimen surely collected in the Limberg Quarry near Sasbach am Kaiserstuhl, Baden. To me this signifies a German rock and mineral collector who spelled English "iron" as "iren" (understandable for someone familiar with "eisen").
Could you ask Andreas to take one last look at my label and see if he recognizes similar ones in his collection?
Thank you very much,
John Vanko
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Tobi
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Posted: Aug 11, 2024 14:39 Post subject: Re: Question from a new user concerning a mineral from Kaiserstuhl/Germany |
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jvanko wrote: | Tobi - Thank you for contacting Andreas. He has posted numerous examples of specimens from Baden which include labels not unlike mine. I was hoping he would recognize similar labels in his collection and thereby identify the collector.
Note the label contains "High iren Olivine" in English for a specimen surely collected in the Limberg Quarry near Sasbach am Kaiserstuhl, Baden. To me this signifies a German rock and mineral collector who spelled English "iron" as "iren" (understandable for someone familiar with "eisen").
Could you ask Andreas to take one last look at my label and see if he recognizes similar ones in his collection?
Thank you very much,
John Vanko | Hi John, I asked Andreas: He has no such labels in his collection. He is sure that he has seen such ones but he doesn't remember a certain name of a collector or institution.
He also said he is sure it was not a German-speaking person who wrote that. And I as a German collector can confirm that a German would write "Hyalosiderit" and "Olivin" instead of "-siderite" and "Olivine".
Regards
Tobi
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jvanko
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Posted: Aug 11, 2024 14:54 Post subject: Re: Question from a new user concerning a mineral from Kaiserstuhl/Germany |
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Thanks very much to both you and Andreas,
John
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