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James Catmur
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Posted: Sep 17, 2024 03:41 Post subject: Colors of minerals |
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We all see mineral colors slightly differently, and knowing how others see a particular color is interesting.
I did this test and my boundary between blue and green means that some of the minerals you see as green I see as blue. The test correctly states that, to me, turquoise is blue (as is purple)
https://ismy.blue/
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bob kerr
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Posted: Sep 17, 2024 08:26 Post subject: Re: Colors of minerals |
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As a color challenged male - red-green color blindness or deutan - I was able to get an average score (176) by cheating and calling what I see as gray - green! if there was a "neither" button I would've chosen that quite a bit.
Would be very cool to see a red-orange version of this. Some people think crocoite is red - others think it's orange - I think it's crocoite. Similarly, with vanadinite.
No wonder azurite is my favorite mineral.
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Bergur_E_Sigurdarson
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Posted: Sep 17, 2024 09:40 Post subject: Re: Colors of minerals |
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I've not noticed much disparity in how people express green vs blue, nor red vs orange
....the one I very regularly notice is people calling fairly obviously pink things either blue or purple.
I wonder if some of those may be cultural, or even for many men, not having grown up with using as much of a diverse vocabulary for colours as women do.
I also wonder if a slight possible factor could be the colour of our irises ?
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alfredo
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Posted: Sep 17, 2024 10:06 Post subject: Re: Colors of minerals |
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There are cultural differences in color perception too. The Japanese call a lot of shades "blue" which we would call "green" in the Anglo world. Even traffic lights are called red and blue in Japan, instead of red and green.
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James Catmur
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Posted: Sep 18, 2024 02:31 Post subject: Re: Colors of minerals |
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I see the traffic lights as red, red, white! Morrocan traffic lights often failed to register at all.
alfredo wrote: | Even traffic lights are called red and blue in Japan, instead of red and green. |
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James Catmur
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Posted: Sep 18, 2024 02:33 Post subject: Re: Colors of minerals |
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My challenge is very similar. Like you I often saw gray, but called it green.
Repeating it on a different device gave different results - I realized that that is due to me using a color filter on one device but not the other. With a color filter my score is much lower and almost everything is blue!
bob kerr wrote: | As a color challenged male - red-green color blindness or deutan |
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Riccardo Modanesi
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Posted: Sep 18, 2024 08:50 Post subject: Re: Colors of minerals |
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Hi to everybody!
As a gemmologist I can have some considerations. First of all a colour perception is very subjective and personal, nevertheless there are some percentage of primary colours compounding a colour itself (see the Colour Atlas of Biesalski, an old university text, but still a valid one). For example, one colour could be compounded by 40% yellow, 40% blue and 10% white, which means an intense emerald green!
Secondly, even a diamond grading is sometimes difficult due to its colour, usually we use the GIA scale, from D to Z. Nevertheless, many gemmological institutes DO NEITHER publish an analysis NOR send an analysis out, until THREE unanimous opinions are achieved. There are very elaborated instruments and machines which everybody can measure a colour by. Nevertheless, do you know what I usually use to do it? MY EYES!!! And the biggest majority of gemmologists do so!
Greetings from Italy by Riccardo
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James Catmur
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Posted: Sep 18, 2024 10:24 Post subject: Re: Colors of minerals |
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My problem is that my eyes are faulty as I lack many of my green sensors. I cannot rely on my eyes but have to ask a friend (or avoid minerals whose colors I cannot see well). That may be why I focus on form over color.
Riccardo Modanesi wrote: | Nevertheless, do you know what I usually use to do it? MY EYES!!! And the biggest majority of gemmologists do so!
Greetings from Italy by Riccardo |
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