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PostPosted: Sep 16, 2009 11:43    Post subject: What kind of twin?  

Ignacio published in the Spanish Forum a request without answer yet. He would like to know which is the specific twin of this Rutile. Someone can help?.


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PostPosted: Sep 16, 2009 13:50    Post subject: Re: What kind of twin?  

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We need to see some other views of this possible twin. I would suggest views with the line of sight more or less parallel to the base, one from the current front right corner and one from the back left corner. And maybe one looking straight down from the top. Does this twin have a zig-zag edge to it? See https://www.mineralatlas.com/mineral%20photos/R/rutile%20cp.htm for a picture of an eightling - a cyclic twin with 8 individuals.

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PostPosted: Sep 17, 2009 05:24    Post subject: Re: What kind of twin?  

Another image of an eightling twin.


Rutile eightling twin Magnet Cove Arkansas USA.jpg
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Magnet Cove, Hot Springs County, Arkansas USA (±1956)
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PostPosted: Sep 17, 2009 12:36    Post subject: Re: What kind of twin?  

Here them are the other views.


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PostPosted: Sep 20, 2009 05:52    Post subject: Re: What kind of twin?  

It looks very much like a twin to me. I have seen similar ones from Graves' Mountain, Georgia, USA.
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PostPosted: Sep 20, 2009 19:55    Post subject: Re: What kind of twin?  

I checked my meager print resources and did not find a match so that I could say " it's a this one or a that one". I am a closet rutile buff as well and look at them when I can. I'm no scientist but I love symmetry. This one sure looks twined to me,
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PostPosted: Sep 22, 2009 06:40    Post subject: Re: What kind of twin?  

Hi

Firstly: Are you sure its rutile and not cassiterite?

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PostPosted: Sep 22, 2009 07:06    Post subject: Re: What kind of twin?  

Sure, it is a classic Spanish locality for Rutiles. Not Cassiterite there.
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PostPosted: Sep 28, 2009 14:34    Post subject: Re: What kind of twin?  

With these additional pictures, I agree that it is a twin. As John White commented, similar twins are found at Graves Mountain in Georgia. The twin law is {011}. The twinning causes the crystal morphology to develop unevenly, and it is very difficult to determine by examination how the morphology is related to that of untwinned crytals. Twins with a pseudo-monoclinic morphology that look a bit like dark brown gypsum crystals are common at Graves Mountain. I have also seen similar twins from several other locations in North America.

These twins usually are flat, and don't zig-zag like the one posted above, from Magnet Cove.

I attach images of several examples from my collection. They differ from the Spanish one in having only one point. On the first one, the boundary between the two halves of the twin can be seen by a change in the reflection on the large face.



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Rutile twin on {011}, Graves Mountain, Georgia. Box is 3.5 cm wide.
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Rutile twin on {011}, Graves Mountain, Georgia. Box is 3.5 cm wide.
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Rutile twin on {011}, Mono County, California. Box is 3.5 cm wide.
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