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Tobi
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Posted: Jul 08, 2011 09:02 Post subject: Mineral labels as art ;) |
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Just an idea that i want to share with you: I never collected mineral labels intentionally, but after two decades of collecting you gather some of them who are quite old or from a known collector or just look exquisite. And i worried about them just lying somewhere in a drawer or so. So i took a choice of them and arranged them as a collage, framed and hung up the wall. Here some impressions of those "mineral labels as art", that actually decorate my home office ...
Cheers!
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Overall shot of the frame (40 x 60 cm). |
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Tobi
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Posted: Jul 08, 2011 09:13 Post subject: Re: Mineral labels as art ;) |
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A closer shot of the labels. |
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The upper half of the framed labels. |
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And here's the other half. |
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Tobi
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Posted: Jul 08, 2011 09:24 Post subject: Re: Mineral labels as art ;) |
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Some details as example...
Labels from purchased specimens:
https://www.mineral-forum.com/message-board/files/eula2_192.jpg
https://www.mineral-forum.com/message-board/files/calcite_elmwood01_188.jpg
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Labels from purchased specimens:
http://www.mineral-forum.com/message-board/files/eula2_192.jpg
http://www.mineral-forum.com/message-board/files/calcite_elmwood01_188.jpg |
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Some more, i don't keep the cerussite anymore, but the sulphur label belongs to my new beauty:
http://www.mineral-forum.com/message-board/files/Sulphursiz_106.jpg |
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And still some more, most of them from other private collectors and/or dealers ... |
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Anne Marie
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Posted: Jul 08, 2011 10:25 Post subject: Re: Mineral labels as art ;) |
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Hi Tobi,
Thank you for posting this. The labels look amazing. Perfect timing too, I was just thinking I need to create consistent labels for my collection. Thanks for providing some great ideas.
Anne Marie
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Antonio Alcaide
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Posted: Jul 08, 2011 17:01 Post subject: Re: Mineral labels as art ;) |
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Two collections better than one!!!! Nice collage, Tobias.
I agree with you, Anne Marie, I must design more consistent labels for the collection. The display, the boxes, labels, showcases are very important as well. But improving the labels is unexpensive and easy.
Cheers
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Anne Marie
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Posted: Jul 08, 2011 23:21 Post subject: Re: Mineral labels as art ;) |
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Yes Antonio,
We need assistants to do the all that work :-) I'm hoping I can get to the labels by the end of the year, then hopefully I can take some lovely photos like the ones that have been posted on the forum. For now I hope you are enjoying your rocks.
Best wishes on your project, Anne Marie
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Tobi
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Posted: Jul 09, 2011 09:33 Post subject: Mineral labels as documented history of a collector |
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Thanks for your comments, folks!
It is not that easy to finally find consistent labels for your own collection; often it takes long time and many designs to find one you finally want to have for your collection. If you are interested (and maybe as an inspiration), here are some of my own private collection labels in different designs:
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Quite simple labels that i used some years ago. Measures 45 x 24 mm. |
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These are the ones i'm using at the moment. Measures 50 x 26 mm. |
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These labels were made by the Mineralogical Museum of Marburg during my exhibition and handed out to me afterwards. Measures 40 x 25 mm. |
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Tobi
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Posted: Jul 09, 2011 09:36 Post subject: Re: Mineral labels as documented history of a collector |
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And here some that show the change of my taste during the last years ...
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vic rzonca
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Posted: Jul 09, 2011 21:07 Post subject: Re: Mineral labels as art ;) |
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Very nice. Are you folks scanning these labels to present to us?
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Peter Megaw
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Posted: Jul 10, 2011 06:50 Post subject: Re: Mineral labels as art ;) |
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Be nice to see the specimens that go with these labels!
Ed...how about posting one of your labels? For those who don't know Ed Huskinson does beautiful caligraphy labels!
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Tobi
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Posted: Jul 10, 2011 08:17 Post subject: Re: Mineral labels as art ;) |
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Peter, i don't have good pictures of the specimens, and i also don't keep all of them anymore. But i provided some of the better specimens above via links to my collection thread.
And Ed, if you read this: I agree with Peter - please show one or some of your wonderful calligraphy labels, i always enjoy them :-)
And to all of you: Please don't consider this "my" label thread - i would like to share the label layouts with the whole FMF community; it would be interesting and inspiring to see the different styles and tastes ...
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Peter Megaw
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Posted: Jul 10, 2011 10:44 Post subject: Re: Mineral labels as art ;) |
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Don't forget that the Mineralogical Record has a huge library of mineral labels on-line for viewing
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Posted: Jul 13, 2011 08:00 Post subject: Re: Mineral labels as art ;) |
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Nice! I had the same idea some time ago and the result were two collages of labels from H. Antonjewitsch/Berlin (late 1950s-1980s period). Inspired by these labels I crafted my on ones as shown.
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growcrystal
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Posted: Oct 12, 2011 18:55 Post subject: Re: Mineral labels as art ;) |
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Both of these collections are awesome though I have to say I have a soft spot for the more official labels over the calligraphy. This might inspire me to go see what I can find in my father's geography box from his days in the office...
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Tobi
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Posted: Oct 25, 2011 12:31 Post subject: Re: Mineral labels as art ;) |
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growcrystal wrote: | [...]though I have to say I have a soft spot for the more official labels over the calligraphy. |
Well, i liked the noble and nostalgic look of the calligraphic ones. But from now an i'll have another generation of labels. The problem was that these old-time letters were often unreadable. And often the letters didn't look right, for example "v" looked like "b" and thus the cavansite was a "cabansite" at first sight. And then i thought: IF a collector uses such old-time labels, then he should even DO it the old way and write them by his own hand. Here in this forum i've seen great examples for such artwork (Ed Huskinson, Andreas Gerstenberg), but my handwriting is not that artistic. And so i dediced that if i can't write labels the old way, i won't pretend that they are old just by using an old font from MS Word ;-)
And so i use this "normal" ones now. Here some samples, they go with my new specimens posted recently in my collection thread.
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Mineral: Printer ink on document paper ;-) Locality: Printer of Tobias Martin, Marburg, Hesse, Germany ;-) Dimensions: 50 x 25 x 0,1 mm each one |
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Posted: Mar 01, 2012 21:32 Post subject: Re: Mineral labels as art ;) |
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Thank you for any photos ..... it was interesting to look at these labels
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Posted: Jun 22, 2012 08:29 Post subject: Re: Mineral labels as art ;) |
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Peter Megaw wrote: | Be nice to see the specimens that go with these labels! |
In a public display, would you necessarily want to see the original labels with the specimens or would a facsimile alongside a newer, more detailed label be desirable? (Space is always a problem).
I was up in the London Natural History Museum workrooms in Fall 2011 whose curator Alan Hart gave me a tour of the specimens stored there - I was almost more interested in the old labels than the other contents ( the handwriting itself as well as what it was written on them). See two images below of drawers of historic diamond models and casts - many have old labels along with more current ones and notes. I never got around to seeing the public displays except a quick walk-through of the Vault gem display on the way to the attic ( Jolyon has some images of the Vault from 2008 https://www.mindat.org/article.php/101/The+Vault+-+Natural+History+Museum+London)
I've been working on preserving some very old labels in a University setting (see below) -- in some cases only the label is what is left, the specimen having long ago disappeared somewhere. Luckily, these are pre-acid paper and are in good shape. What is sometimes most interesting is what the original collector chose to write on the back, giving clues to that time period - in the case of Benjamin Silliman Jr, the mid-1800's. Sometimes this type of information was not copied to a newer label.
A last thought, I miss real handwriting....no more hand-lettered labels....come to think of it, no more handwriting at all, anywhere!
Best wishes,
Elise
(PS - I may have posted some of these images elsewhere on FMF, but if so, I can't find where, apologies if I'm repeating myself).
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Original label, no specimen, 2" x 1 1/4" (photo: E. Skalwold) |
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Original label with specimens, very teeny tiny diamond crystals, technically speaking (photo: E. Skalwold) |
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Casts and models of diamond crystals and faceted diamonds; storage drawers, Natural History Museum, London. Note - some have multiple old and new labels. (photo: E. Skalwold) |
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Casts and models of diamond crystals and faceted diamonds; storage drawers, Natural History Museum, London (photo: E. Skalwold) |
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Tobi
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Posted: Jun 22, 2012 10:44 Post subject: Re: Mineral labels as art ;) |
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Elise wrote: | A last thought, I miss real handwriting....no more hand-lettered labels....come to think of it, no more handwriting at all, anywhere! |
But there are some counterexamples: Andreas Gerstenberg and Ed Huskinson are proof that some collectors still DO handwriting - and they do a very good job!
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