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PostPosted: Dec 28, 2013 18:50    Post subject: Snowflake Photographs?  

I was wondering if anyone does any snowflake photography? I have a question about the processes. When done with a microscope I can figure out everything except lighting. Even in subzero temperatures once you turn a light onto that slide the snow will melt so how do you light it without losing your subject. Also any tips for photographing without a microscope for someone on a very limited budget? I found some schematics online for a setup turning an ordinary camera into a high powered macro camera but it's still out of my budget. Last question, statement really, if anyone does do this photography I would love to see your photos.
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PostPosted: Dec 29, 2013 00:25    Post subject: Re: Snowflake Photographs?  

Here are some outstanding snowflake pics. Within the article is a link with detailed instructions on how to do this, and the author's equipment and setup.

Oops.....can not post a link on FMF. If you PM me, I will pass along the link...or you can find the link on my facebook page.
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PostPosted: Dec 29, 2013 01:01    Post subject: Re: Snowflake Photographs?  

Found the link on your Facebook and that's the one I mentioned in the post. I am on a very limited budget and can't even afford to build a rig. I do have a microscope with a camera which is why I am most interested in doing it that way. The guy in the link must be famous because he comes up a lot when googling snowflake photography.
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PostPosted: Dec 29, 2013 05:41    Post subject: Re: Snowflake Photographs?  

Google Alexey Kljatov snowflake photographs for others interested
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PostPosted: Dec 29, 2013 07:33    Post subject: Re: Snowflake Photographs?  

Paul Bordovsky wrote:
...Oops.....can not post a link on FMF....

Yes, you can! ;-)

Please see: Links within the message forum
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PostPosted: Dec 29, 2013 12:23    Post subject: Re: Snowflake Photographs?  

Thanks Jordi.

Here is the link to the snowflake photos that I mentioned earlier, produced by the photographer Peter also referenced.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/03/alexey-kljatov_n_4373888.html
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PostPosted: Dec 29, 2013 19:09    Post subject: Re: Snowflake Photographs?  

Those photo's are spectacular! Thanks for sharing the link.
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PostPosted: Dec 29, 2013 20:33    Post subject: Re: Snowflake Photographs?  

There is is a book of wonderful snowflake crystals by Kenneth Libbrecht with images by Patricia Rasmussen, published by Voyageur Press (2003) called The Snowflake: Winter's Secret Beauty. It is full of images of snowflakes, some of which are very similar in general lighting and appearance to some of the images at the website listed above.

The author and photographer also have a website,
http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals/
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and it is even possible that some of the images at both sites are identical. If this is so, it is a copyright violation because Libbrecht specifies that his images must be acknowledged when used. I'm not making an accusation because I will not take the time to make the detailed comparison necessary, but just raising awareness of the possibility.

In any case, there are many wonderful images of snowflakes out there!

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PostPosted: Dec 29, 2013 21:42    Post subject: Re: Snowflake Photographs?  

More on snowflakes: There was an excellent review of snowflake morphology and genesis with instructions for one way of preserving snowflake morphology by my friend Ed Clopton in Rocks & Minerals way back in March/April 1994. Those who want to "capture" snow flakes might like to consult it as well as other articles on the subject.

Clopton, Ed. 1994. Ice as a Mineral. Rocks & Minerals 69(2):90-103. DOI:
10.1080/00357529.1994.9926581

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PostPosted: Dec 30, 2013 01:03    Post subject: Re: Snowflake Photographs?  

Wonderful link Pete, thanks
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PostPosted: Dec 30, 2013 01:40    Post subject: Re: Snowflake Photographs?  

Glory to the One who made those snowflakes!!! Nice topic Trtlman.
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PostPosted: Jan 20, 2014 14:17    Post subject: Re: Snowflake Photographs?  

Mindat features a few nice pics of ice crystals, those ones are spectacular:

http://www.mindat.org/photo-205087.html

http://www.mindat.org/photo-492897.html

museum class specimens hahaha
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PostPosted: Jan 20, 2014 14:22    Post subject: Re: Snowflake Photographs?  

I found out snowflakes can actually be preserved forever and will never melt

http://www.wikihow.com/Preserve-Snowflakes
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PostPosted: Jan 21, 2014 08:33    Post subject: Re: Snowflake Photographs?  

As I understand it, they will still melt into water, but you'll have a negative print of the snowflake filled with water.
Also, if you put that water-filled print back in the freezer, the original snowflake crystal won't form again, the water inside the print will simply turn into massive ice, shaped in the form of the original snow flake.
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PostPosted: Jan 21, 2014 22:37    Post subject: Re: Snowflake Photographs?  

cascaillou wrote:
As I understand it, they will still melt into water, but you'll have a negative print of the snowflake filled with water.
Also, if you put that water-filled print back in the freezer, the original snowflake crystal won't form again, the water inside the print will simply turn into massive ice, shaped in the form of the original snow flake.


So it will never be like the original? Still a cool idea though.

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PostPosted: Feb 17, 2014 11:05    Post subject: Re: Snowflake Photographs?  

Here is my meager attempt. Frozen fingers and wind kept me from taking the time I wanted for optimal focus stacking so the image is not as crisp. For the backdrop I simply used some black fabric to catch the snowflakes.


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PostPosted: Feb 17, 2014 11:43    Post subject: Re: Snowflake Photographs?  

When snow stays under the fog during some nights at very low temperature this amazing texture is formed:


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PostPosted: Feb 17, 2014 13:28    Post subject: Re: Snowflake Photographs?  

trtlman wrote:
Even in subzero temperatures once you turn a light onto that slide the snow will melt so how do you light it without losing your subject.


My guess is that with a microscope you don't use the hot incandescent lamp it comes with. Rather, use the ambient light of the day, or a low heat emitting LED light. The light does not have to be directly next to the flake as you should adjust your exposure for additional needed light. It's a trial and error process depending on your tools, lights, angle of flake, etc. etc. Wind comes into effect as well especially if you are focus stacking -- some of my attempts were ruined by puffs of wind moving the flake around during the shots.

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PostPosted: Oct 11, 2014 14:10    Post subject: Re: Snowflake Photographs?  

Don't have pics, but 2 years ago I had snowflakes fall on my jacket and all were the perfect shape of the star of david. Really weird and wish I had a camera handy.
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PostPosted: Feb 14, 2016 08:52    Post subject: Re: Snowflake Photographs?  

Something I wonder about snowflakes...
How do they have those symmetric branches? How does a molecule of H2O "know" that it is supposed to go THERE to be on the side of an arm, to match the other five arms that are a millimeter away (which is like a megaparsec to a molecule)? Why don't they just spread out at random, H2O unit cells going here and there higgelty-piggelty?
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