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PostPosted: Feb 12, 2013 14:22    Post subject: Warwickite or Yuanfuliite?  

I recently traded for some material from the Nuestra Senora del Carmen mine near La Celia, Murcia, Spain. I have seen on Mindat where they are calling this particular mineral Warwickite and then Yuanfuliite is shown in the photo gallery. Since Warwickite is not in the mineral list am I correct to label my specimens as Yuanfuliite? Thanks everyone.
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PostPosted: Feb 12, 2013 16:11    Post subject: Re: Warwickite or Yuanfuliite?  

Hi Ron,

I think you are right. Yuanfuliite is a member of the warwickite group. In a Spanish forum I have found that in the article "Bigi S, Brigatti M F, Capedri S (1991) Crystal chemistry of Fe- and Cr-rich warwickite, American Mineralogist, 76, 1380-1388" explains that in the specimens studied in La Celia, iron is near Fe3+ than Fe2+ of the warwickite. For this reason most specimens could be considered yuanfuliite instead of warwickite.

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PostPosted: Feb 12, 2013 21:07    Post subject: Re: Warwickite or Yuanfuliite?  

Thanks for the feedback. That's the data I am going on. Here is a link to the article if anyone is interested:
https://www.minsocam.org/ammin/AM76/AM76_1380.pdf
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PostPosted: Feb 13, 2013 02:47    Post subject: Re: Warwickite or Yuanfuliite?  

Thanks a lot, Ron, for the link.

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PostPosted: Feb 13, 2013 06:08    Post subject: Re: Warwickite or Yuanfuliite?  

Sorry Ron, yesterday I didn't have enough time to search the document and post the link. Also thank you very much for doing it and for sharing it with us.

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PostPosted: Aug 01, 2013 10:38    Post subject: Re: Warwickite or Yuanfuliite?  

Holà,

I am sorry supertxango, but we cannot say that ALL warwickite specimens from La Celia are yuanfuliite just on the basis of the 1991 article. Please read it again carefully.

You can also read the interesting thread on FMF:
https://www.foro-minerales.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=65794#65794

I am going to find out why warwickite was removed from La Celia in mindat on 28/07/2011.

Best wishes,
Georges.
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PostPosted: Aug 02, 2013 17:22    Post subject: Re: Warwickite or Yuanfuliite?  

Hola!
favreaug wrote:
Holà,

I am sorry supertxango, but we cannot say that ALL warwickite specimens from La Celia are yuanfuliite just on the basis of the 1991 article. Please read it again carefully.

You can also read the interesting thread on FMF:
https://www.foro-minerales.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=65794#65794



You are right an César M. explains it so good in the thread...

favreaug wrote:


I am going to find out why warwickite was removed from La Celia in mindat on 28/07/2011.


...but probably it´s confirmed in the following article that all the specimens are yuanfullite.

Uitterduk Appel, P.W., Bigi, S., Brigatti, M.F. (1999): Crystal structure and chemistry of yuanfuliite. European Journal of Mineralogy, 11, 483-491

I can´t find the article in Internet. I´m going to ask César.

Regards,

Juan H
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PostPosted: Aug 03, 2013 12:35    Post subject: Re: Warwickite or Yuanfuliite?  

Hi again,

As a result of the queries that I have done, I have changed in my original text:

For this reason the specimens must be considered yuanfuliite instead of warwickite.

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For this reason most specimens could be considered yuanfuliite instead of warwickite.

Thanks favreaug.
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