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PostPosted: Apr 17, 2020 04:14    Post subject: Re: The rock that got away…  

Don Lum wrote:
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The most vivid experience in my case is a specimen that didn’t really get away but took a couple of years to get into my collection.
I started attending the Sainte-Marie-aux-Mines mineral show in the early 2000s and one of the highlights of the show was the booth of Roger Titeux, a famous French mineral dealer from Nancy (Eastern France).
Mr. Titeux was already in his late 80s when I first met him in SMAM and the dominant colors in his booth were green and blue - Emerald green and Euclase blue.
In the 2005 show, a very large emerald specimen from Coscuez with a mix of dark gray and colorless calcite caught my eye, but when asked, Mr. Titeux told me it was not for sale.
I found out that Mr. Titeux had actually several pieces on display that he wanted to go for his children.
Useless to say that over the following years, I made Mr. Titeux several offers for that specimen but his answer was invariably the same.
I met him last in the 2009 show when he was in his mid-90s. “My” specimen was still on display in his booth but his "no" was weaker than in the previous years.
Roger Titeux passed away a few months later at the age of 96.
A year later, I was contacted by a French dealer who had some acquaintance with the family. The rest is history.
Gerard


Gerard, what about the "rest of the story?" As Paul Harvey used to say to end his radio broadcast.

Is there a picture? ;-)

Don

Good to hear from you Don!
Here is the illustrated story ;-)
Gerard



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PostPosted: Apr 17, 2020 04:39    Post subject: Re: The rock that got away…  

Oh, yes. It was worth waiting for all those years!
Congratulations, Gérard.
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PostPosted: Apr 17, 2020 04:39    Post subject: Re: The rock that got away…  

I have been watching this thread and wondering what I can add to the stories.

As I look back I can think of specimens I sold and now regret - I once had the pleasure of emptying a pocket in a mine [not named, sorry but if you saw a photo you would know the mine] where no hammer was required after I broke into the bottom of the pocket, as a mixture of fine sand and specimens just poured out into my hands - I had to block the opening with my left hand to stop them falling onto the floor of the mine. I must have collected about 30-40 floaters from the pocket. Over the years I sold some of them as I reduced the number of 'rocks' stored in the garage and then one day I realised I had nothing left from the pocket. They were not wonderful specimens but I was fond of them.

Some years later I found out that I had given my parents a couple of them but had forgotten this. So I was reunited with two specimens from the pocket. Not the best but one is not bad.

I also remember the time I was walking back through the mountains from hours of collecting in a mine and I fell over, damaging the best specimen I had ever seen from the mine. While collecting that day I spent so long opening up a pocket, while my body blocked the entrance, that I almost ran out of oxygen. But I could see the specimen and there was no way I was going to leave it behind. I still have it and it is not bad, but it is nowhere near the one I collected.

Then there was the pocket I opened in a quarry that produced the best find I have ever made. Before we loaded the ~10 specimens into the car a person came up who forced us to hand them over, using the threat of force. In the end, he let me buy the best piece back, which I still have but every time I see it I recall all the ones he took and having to buy back something I had found.

So three stories that might entertain

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PostPosted: Apr 17, 2020 04:58    Post subject: Re: The rock that got away…  

Sante Celiberti wrote:
Oh, yes. It was worth waiting for all those years!
Congratulations, Gérard.

Thank you Sante!
With all its ups and downs, the wait was most rewarding.
Incidentally, that wait allowed me to get to know a bit about Roger Titeux.
Gérard
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PostPosted: Apr 17, 2020 09:11    Post subject: Re: The rock that got away…  

Sante Celiberti wrote:
Oh, yes. It was worth waiting for all those years!
Congratulations, Gérard.


I heartily agree with Sante. This was certainly worth waiting for.
Congratulations, Gerard. And thanks for "the rest of the story."

Stay safe.

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PostPosted: Apr 19, 2020 16:44    Post subject: Re: The rock that got away…  

Something like 40 years ago, we had our one and only visit to Ohio that coincided with the Cincinnati Mineral show. I saw a Tsumeb azurite with very thin prismatic crystals, quite unlike the typical azurites from there. There were several specimens, priced at about $100 as I recall--quite beyond contemplating with our finances at the time. I have looked for similar ever since. Finally in 2004 I found a small Tn that reminded me of the habit of those azurites. I bought it, despite a broken central crystal. Can anyone shed any light on that find? Does anyone have pictures of that habit from Tsumeb to share?
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PostPosted: Apr 26, 2020 09:35    Post subject: Re: The rock that got away…  

Another rock that got away:

About 10-12 years ago I purchased this specimen of fluorite from Yaogangxian Mine for a really cheap price on a small mineral show. After I had it for several years, I sold it via a German mineral forum ... a few years later there was a discussion on Facebook, Austrian dealer Martin Gruell got the specimen and it was sold to him as "Weardale". He and many others rightly doubted that but noboby could solve the riddle until I got into the discussion ...

The specimen seemed to have passed though many hands, and one of the owners "changed" Yaogangxian to Weardale :-( However, today I really regret that I gave this fluorite away :-(



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