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Sante Celiberti
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Posted: Jan 09, 2020 16:25 Post subject: How to destroy a beautiful pyrite. |
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Hello.
The inclusion of this topic in the "Mineral Art" forum is of course ironic.
Despite having seen thousands of specimens of pyrite from Elba (and having they been quite common in the Island), I could not help but feel sad at the sight of this piece.
In the 80-90s of the last century it was normal to sell objects like this to tourists. And the craftsmen-traders preferred for obvious reasons big crystals with flat faces...
Normally, when we share one of our pieces we expect others to like it.
This time I hope not...
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Sante
Mineral: | Pyrite, Hematite |
Locality: | Rio Marina, Elba Island, Livorno Province, Tuscany, Italy | ![](templates/FabreMinerals/images/LocalidadesGreen.png) |
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Dimensions: | 110 x 96 mm |
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Posted: Jan 09, 2020 19:25 Post subject: Re: How to destroy a beautiful pyrite. |
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That's an interesting use of a mineral resource. At least it wasn't ground up as iron ore.
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Posted: Jan 10, 2020 02:59 Post subject: Re: How to destroy a beautiful pyrite. |
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Hi Sante,
I also feel sad when I see this. 11 cm, I think I have never seen an Elba pyrite this big, really sad that people disfigure such a great natural beauty for ... what is this, a lighter?
Tobi
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Sante Celiberti
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Posted: Jan 10, 2020 07:50 Post subject: Re: How to destroy a beautiful pyrite. |
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Bob Carnein wrote: | That's an interesting use of a mineral resource. At least it wasn't ground up as iron ore. |
Hi, Bob.
Thanks for your comments that I share.
I just lament that thousands of "good" specimens were removed from the collecting circuit. Nothing to complain about most common objects such as the following. Except, of course, for their "kitschiness". :-)
Best regards.
Sante
Mineral: | Pyrite |
Locality: | Niccioleta Mine, Massa Marittima, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy | ![](templates/FabreMinerals/images/LocalidadesGreen.png) |
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Dimensions: | 65,2 x56,6 mm |
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It has been prepared and sold in Massa Marittima. |
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Mineral: | Pyrite |
Locality: | Rio Marina, Elba Island, Livorno Province, Tuscany, Italy | ![](templates/FabreMinerals/images/LocalidadesGreen.png) |
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Dimensions: | 2-7 mm |
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Bracelet and ring with floater crystals from Elba Island. |
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Mineral: | Pyrite |
Locality: | Rio Marina, Elba Island, Livorno Province, Tuscany, Italy | ![](templates/FabreMinerals/images/LocalidadesGreen.png) |
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Dimensions: | 7-18 mm |
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Small bottle of 145 mm sold in Elba Island. |
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Mineral: | Pyrite |
Locality: | Rio Marina, Elba Island, Livorno Province, Tuscany, Italy | ![](templates/FabreMinerals/images/LocalidadesGreen.png) |
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Dimensions: | 23,6 x 22,7 mm |
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Pendant prepared and sold in Massa Marittima. The group of pyritohedrons is floater. |
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Mineral: | Pyrite |
Locality: | Rio Marina, Elba Island, Livorno Province, Tuscany, Italy | ![](templates/FabreMinerals/images/LocalidadesGreen.png) |
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Dimensions: | 2-12 mm |
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Jar of nearly 20 cm prepared and sold in Gavorrano. The floater pyritohedrons come from Elba Island. |
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Sante Celiberti
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Posted: Jan 10, 2020 08:21 Post subject: Re: How to destroy a beautiful pyrite. |
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Tobi wrote: | Hi Sante,
I also feel sad when I see this. 11 cm, I think I have never seen an Elba pyrite this big, really sad that people disfigure such a great natural beauty for ... what is this, a lighter? |
Hi, Tobi.
Thank-you for your kind comment. Yes, it is a lighter...
As for the crystals size, I've posted on the Spanish Forum some pyrite crystals till 190 mm.
Living in Gavorrano and being a pyrite lover, I like all your specimens, including the Elban one. Congratulations on your beautiful collection.
Cheers.
Sante
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Posted: Jan 10, 2020 08:27 Post subject: Re: How to destroy a beautiful pyrite. |
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Talking about "kitschiness", this is what also happens when the area is loaded with pyrite.
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Locality: | Chivor mining district, Municipio Chivor, Eastern Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia | ![](templates/FabreMinerals/images/LocalidadesGreen.png) |
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Same store as in previous picture - actually this is a grocery store. They probably wanted to stand out from competitors (works well). |
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Sante Celiberti
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Posted: Jan 10, 2020 09:05 Post subject: Re: How to destroy a beautiful pyrite. |
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Fiebre Verde wrote: | Talking about "kitschiness", this is what also happens when the area is loaded with pyrite. |
Hi, Gérard. Thank-you.
These pictures are an interesting addition to the "unusual use" of pyrite.
Nice Palladian floor! I'll suggest our mayor to do something similar in front of the main door of the town hall of Gavorrano. :-)
As for your second picture, maybe the anthropologists and psychoanalysts should deepen the theme of the jar. :-)
My best compliments on your green stones.
Sante
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Posted: Jan 10, 2020 09:47 Post subject: Re: How to destroy a beautiful pyrite. |
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Sante Celiberti wrote: | Fiebre Verde wrote: | Talking about "kitschiness", this is what also happens when the area is loaded with pyrite. |
Hi, Gérard. Thank-you.
These pictures are an interesting addition to the "unusual use" of pyrite.
Nice Palladian floor! I'll suggest our mayor to do something similar in front of the main door of the town hall of Gavorrano. :-)
As for your second picture, maybe the anthropologists and psychoanalysts should deepen the theme of the jar. :-)
My best compliments on your green stones.
Sante | Hi Sante
I can send you more pictures of the storefront if that helps to convince the mayor of Gavorrano ;-)
Your compliments on the green stones are appreciated!
Taking about that, emerald memorabilia can be quite tacky too but that would require a separate thread on its own. Have never seen emerald lighters though!
I also enjoy very much your mineralogical journey through Italy.
Gérard
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Posted: Jan 14, 2020 16:52 Post subject: Re: How to destroy a beautiful pyrite. |
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Hello.
This time I managed to recover a beautiful pyrite.
When I saw it in a second-hand shop, I immediately recognized its place of origin: the classic Gavorrano Mine.
Unfortunately, the piece, intended for tourists, had been attached to a wooden base with colored chalk.
I had to work very patiently and for a long time to detach it without damaging it.
In the end I was rewarded by a good result and a welcome surprise: the piece was completely crystallized with a minimal attachment point, nearly a floater.
Now I'm happy that it ended up on the collecting circuit.
Best regards,
Sante
Mineral: | Pyrite |
Locality: | Gavorrano Mine, Gavorrano, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy | ![](templates/FabreMinerals/images/LocalidadesGreen.png) |
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Mineral: | Pyrite |
Locality: | Gavorrano Mine, Gavorrano, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy | ![](templates/FabreMinerals/images/LocalidadesGreen.png) |
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Dimensions: | 145 x 76 mm |
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The rear side, after cleaning, completely well crystallized. |
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Mineral: | Pyrite |
Locality: | Gavorrano Mine, Gavorrano, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy | ![](templates/FabreMinerals/images/LocalidadesGreen.png) |
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Dimensions: | 145 x76 mm |
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A lateral side completely crystallized. The piece is a so-called "center-geode". |
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Posted: Apr 08, 2022 13:07 Post subject: Re: How to destroy a beautiful pyrite. |
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however they are small works of art.
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