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bob kerr

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Posted: Feb 13, 2024 11:20 Post subject: Re: Tucson 2024 - It's started! |
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The case entitled "Some Favorites from the Irving Collection" was truly first rate and contained two specimens that really caught my eye - the pyrite on quartz cluster from the Spruce Claim in Washington State and the unique aquamarine, spessartine specimen from Pakistan.
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bob kerr

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Posted: Feb 13, 2024 11:29 Post subject: Re: Tucson 2024 - It's started! |
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And, finally, last but CERTAINLY not least was the case entered by Tom Campbell that won both the Desautels Trophy for "The Best Case of Rocks" and also the Lidstrom Trophy for "Best Overall Specimen" for his Beryllonite on Hydroxyl herderite from Pakistan.
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bob kerr

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Posted: Feb 13, 2024 12:03 Post subject: Re: Tucson 2024 - It's started! |
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OK - some final thoughts about the 2024 Tucson shows:
- There was really very little that was new for this year - some small finds of interest and some new/better specimens of older finds but nothing that was the talk of the shows. Pakistani Aquas were EVERYWHERE and HUGE specimens could be had - but I kinda wish they were bluer.
- This year Mineral City REALLY came into its own and became a CITY - it is the hub of mineral dealing and is a terrific place to hang out with friends, have a drink at The Stope, get a good quality sandwich at the various food trucks and stick around for some evening entertainment - this year was the Pink Floyd tribute band - Shine on Floyd who were excellent. Graham Sutton deserves a round of applause.
- I feel sorry for the very good dealers housed in the G Building - which has been dubbed "The G-Spot" since it's so hard to find. The building is simply too far away from the others. Not sure what the solution to this problem is.
- The TGMS Show at the convention center (aka The Main Show) has reverted back to its roots - by that I mean the large majority of mineral dealers are what I would classify as smaller and more local dealers - kinda like it was many moons ago. The "major league" dealers now either have their own buildings or rent a room annually at Min City so why should they incur the risk and cost of setting up at the TGMS Show? I can't blame them.
- From my limited and non-scientific polling of various dealers, it seems sales ranged from above-average to very good with of course a few dealers not earning their fee's/costs but that's always the case.
- This was the wettest Tuscon Show ever - well over 3 inches of rain fell during the shows and the cold/windy/wet Saturday of the Main Show resulted in a huge crowd - about double the usual crowd size.
- Change is inevitable - especially for the Tucson Shows but I think Mineral City (and its surroundings) is going to be around for a very long time. Dealers and buyers like the entire situation. There is however one big historical change occurring in the vicinity and that's the removal of an old Tucson landmark - the infamous and proverbial No-Tel Motel is being torn down - see photo.
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Don Lum

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Posted: Feb 13, 2024 14:03 Post subject: Re: Tucson 2024 - It's started! |
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Bob, I want to thank you very much for all the fine pictures and the reporting on the 2024 Tucson show. Your pictures and comments were excellent.
Don Lum
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James Catmur
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Posted: Feb 14, 2024 03:29 Post subject: Re: Tucson 2024 - It's started! |
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Thanks Bob.
I attended a great talk last week all about the use of fossils, gems and minerals in medical matters.
bob kerr wrote: | The Sherman Dugan Museum of Geology at San Juan College entered an interesting case showing some historical uses of toxic minerals. How did we survive childhood? |
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Posted: Feb 14, 2024 04:28 Post subject: Re: Tucson 2024 - It's started! |
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Thanks Bob.
I attended a great talk last week all about the use of fossils, gems and minerals in medical matters. For example, what were belemnites good for? They cured the thing they looked like. Fascinating subject.
bob kerr wrote: | The Sherman Dugan Museum of Geology at San Juan College entered an interesting case showing some historical uses of toxic minerals. How did we survive childhood? |
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Tony L. Potucek
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Posted: Feb 16, 2024 09:21 Post subject: Re: Tucson 2024 - It's started! |
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Bob,
Thanks for your hard work of posting many dealers and their offerings during the 2024 Tucson Show. I really appreciate it, and it was good seeing you at Mineral City!
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John Cornish
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Posted: Feb 16, 2024 10:15 Post subject: Re: Tucson 2024 - It's started! |
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Hi Bob,
It was great seeing you at the show!
Thank you for another outstanding Tucson report! Your reports always fill in the gaps of my own experiences, allowing me a funner, fuller, take-away!
See ya next year!
John
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Bergur_E_Sigurdarson

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Posted: Feb 17, 2024 17:36 Post subject: Re: Tucson 2024 - It's started! |
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bob kerr wrote: | Number 8 in the series of "Barite World Tour" cases entered annually by Bill and Diana Dameron covers Latin America - mainly Mexico and Peru as most other nations in Latin America are devoid of barite. Learn something new every day! |
I would say that Colombia actually also has some barite, ranging from minor ones coming from La Marina, usually in association with Albite, and sometimes a little of pyrite and even fluorapatite, but also quite large groupings from the Muzo area.
Unfortunately, very few specimens have come from Colombia, but mostly because the mineral isn't recognized and often the ones found are found by "guaqueros" in tailings and thus damaged.
Barite can be found elsewhere in Colombia, as I have a self-found piece, I just randomly saw in a quarry, unfortunately it was an area looking like it had some rock taken and was being prepared for building and no more was to be seen in the cliff walls.
I'm not stating Colombia as a good source for Barite, but I think beyond what is known it has potential for quite good pieces, and possibly in some rather unusual associations.
...I hope I can stumble onto more in the future.
(though I'm currently into my building project for the next months, and don't expect to manage to get to Bogota or any mining area anytime soon for that reason ...I have to be present at the building site to oversee and to pay for materials as they arrive, and my savings are in a bad state, as the exchange rate has actually reduced them by almost 20% since beginning of last year :-/ ...to the point that I've even considered a "kickstarter" thing to help fund it... as more than a third of the house is for my humble collection I want to open as a mini-museum, I once joked I wanted to be the MIM of Colombia... but frankly that might both be far beyond my capacity, but also, Colombia lacks a good mineral collection open to the public, there is the National University collection, but despite its size there are very few specimens of quality or interest to a collector. Sorry for the deviation of subject in this last part, but I'm hoping I can get to a point that my collection becomes a worthy attraction, as well as offering foreign collectors/visitors a service of a place to stay as well as guiding into both emerald belts :-) )
For some attention, I've attached a couple of images of my Colombian Barites
(don't have a pic of my self-found one, and the last is only a phone-cam pic so apologies for the lackluster quality)
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Fiebre Verde

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Posted: Feb 18, 2024 04:24 Post subject: Re: Tucson 2024 - It's started! |
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Bergur_E_Sigurdarson wrote: | bob kerr wrote: | Number 8 in the series of "Barite World Tour" cases entered annually by Bill and Diana Dameron covers Latin America - mainly Mexico and Peru as most other nations in Latin America are devoid of barite. Learn something new every day! |
I would say that Colombia actually also has some barite, ranging from minor ones coming from La Marina,usually in association with Albite, and sometimes a little of pyrite and even fluorapatite, but also quite large groupings from the Muzo area.
Unfortunately, very few specimens have come from Colombia, but mostly because the mineral isn't recognized and often the ones found are found by "guaqueros" in tailings and thus damaged.
Barite can be found elsewhere in Colombia, as I have a self-found piece, I just randomly saw in a quarry, unfortunately it was an area looking like it had some rock taken and was being prepared for building and no more was to be seen in the cliff walls.
... ... ...
I'm not stating Colombia as a good source for Barite, but I think beyond what is known it has potential for quite good pieces, and possibly in som rather unusual associations.
...I hope I can stumble onto more in the future
For some attention, I've attached a couple of images of my Colombian Barites
(don't have a pic of my self-found one, and the last is only a phone-cam pic so apologies for the lackluster quality) |
I couldn't agree more with Bergur's statement on Colombian barite: they are completely overlooked by the 'guaqueros' because they think it has little or no value.
Here are a few more examples of Colombian barite from La Marina and Muzo.
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