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Pierre Joubert
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Posted: Mar 20, 2015 06:55 Post subject: Re: How to find a pocket? - (22) |
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Hi Martin, Reinhardt, Don and Peter. Thank you very much for the kind comments. I did also send Jordi a personal thank you for the privilege to post this contribution and the honour to have it featured.
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Posted: Mar 20, 2015 12:56 Post subject: Re: How to find a pocket? - (22) |
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Great post, and good new finds Pierre.
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Enrique.
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Posted: Mar 21, 2015 01:05 Post subject: Re: How to find a pocket? - (22) |
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Enrique Llorens wrote: | Great post, and good new finds Pierre.
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Hi Enrique. Thank you for your kind comment. There has not been much exciting new finds lately as it is summer here and has been very hot. We are having our first noteable rain in many months at the moment and as cooler weather comes, we hope to be out more often. Best regards.
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Reinhardt van Vuuren
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Posted: Mar 29, 2015 09:41 Post subject: Re: How to find a pocket? - (22) |
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Hi Pierre,
Following your advice I went to a local beach where there were quartz outcrops, the quartz was milky and clearish in some parts, so I went about following quartz veins and looking in all the funny crevices as you explained and started seeing small crystal faces but nothing exciting after about half an hour of searching in between the rocks I found a large pocket of crystals but they were heavily water worn but this gave me big hope that there must be more decent crystals. I followed a vein a few meters up and found a small whole in the rock, there was small crystals peeking out at me so I put my fingers into this rain water filled whole only to feel a big crystal face, and my first pocket :D I worked to open the pocket and found my main specimen followed by a few smaller ones. I noticed there was red iron staining on some of the crystals and while digging around in the pocket came across an old rusty bolt that must have fallen into the pocket, as such I decided to remove the mayoralty of the iron staining on the crystals using warmed vinegar. I just want to thank you greatly for sharing these wonderful tools with us, its something that will be with me for many years to come. see attached photo's of my find.
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Posted: Mar 29, 2015 09:44 Post subject: Re: How to find a pocket? - (22) |
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Posted: Mar 29, 2015 09:47 Post subject: Re: How to find a pocket? - (22) |
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Posted: Mar 29, 2015 09:52 Post subject: Re: How to find a pocket? - (22) |
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other crystals from the pocket and a scale view of all ( 15cm ruler )
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Posted: Mar 29, 2015 10:00 Post subject: Re: How to find a pocket? - (22) |
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Posted: Mar 29, 2015 10:00 Post subject: Re: How to find a pocket? - (22) |
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Gelukwensing Reinhardt! Nice piece!
And all glory to Pierre. :)
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Posted: Mar 29, 2015 10:03 Post subject: Re: How to find a pocket? - (22) |
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Thanks Psax, yes Pierre did a wonderful job on the article, I'm sure this will help many other rock hounds too :)
Psax wrote: | Gelukwensing Reinhardt! Nice piece!
And all glory to Pierre. :) |
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Posted: Mar 29, 2015 12:47 Post subject: Re: How to find a pocket? - (22) |
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Hi Reinhardt. Well done! There must be more and bigger and I am sure the bug has bitten. There is no cure! :-)
Dear Psax, NO glory to me. I often think the crystals have gotten to my brain. I am always looking for the stuff!!! haha
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Posted: Apr 08, 2015 09:03 Post subject: Re: How to find a pocket? - (22) |
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Some more prospecting tips:
-First identify some interesting areas from mineralogical websites featuring locality pages (mindat is a good place to start, but there are also websites which are more country-specific). Of course, if any books have been written about the mineralogy of this region specifically, you will likely find even more informations in those.
-See what minerals have been reported from those places.
-Learn about the genesis conditions of the minerals you're looking for (meaning in what geological context they are known to occur, and also what are the associated minerals). You will find that information in any good mineralogy book or website such as Mindat and handbookofmineralogy . org
-Get a detailed geological map of that area to locate where the geology is adequate for those minerals to occur. Notably, pay attention to contact zones (for instance contact between igneous rocks and carbonate rocks), which are usually interesting to prospect.
-Compare with a map of the area showing relief, access roads and hiking tracks.
-stuff your maps and compass in your rucksack, then go and explore by yourself.
Of course, the reverse thinking is that when you find a given mineral, then you should check the geological map to verify what the geological setting was at the exact place where you had found the mineral, so the map will show you how far and in which directions that setting extends, or if there are other spots with similar geological setting in the area.
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Posted: Apr 08, 2015 10:57 Post subject: Re: How to find a pocket? - (22) |
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Pierre Joubert wrote: | cascaillou wrote: | Some more prospecting tips:
-First identify some interesting areas from mineralogical websites featuring locality pages (mindat is a good place to start, but there are also websites which are more country-specific). Of course, if any books have been written about the mineralogy of this region specifically, you will likely find even more informations in those.
-See what minerals have been reported from those places.
-Learn about the genesis conditions of the minerals you're looking for (meaning in what geological context they are known to occur, and also what are the associated minerals). You will find that information in any good mineralogy book or website such as Mindat and handbookofmineralogy . org
-Get a detailed geological map of that area to locate where the geology is adequate for those minerals to occur. Notably, pay attention to contact zones (for instance contact between igneous rocks and carbonate rocks), which are usually interesting to prospect.
-Compare with a map of the area showing relief, access roads and hiking tracks.
-stuff your maps and compass in your rucksack, then go and explore by yourself... |
Excellent contribution Cascaillou! Locally, we have a book by Bruce Cairncross 'A field guide to rocks and minerals of Southern Africa'. It is an excellent source of good information to where what is found, as well as operating and defunct mines. |
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Posted: Apr 08, 2015 11:09 Post subject: Re: How to find a pocket? - (22) |
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geological maps are a blessing :-)
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Posted: Apr 08, 2015 11:23 Post subject: Re: How to find a pocket? - (22) |
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Thanks Jordi. I gave up on that one due to the spam filter :-)
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