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PostPosted: Apr 09, 2020 16:07    Post subject: Re: Collection of Sante Celiberti - A mineralogical trip through Italy  

Hello.

A very classic Alpine garnet.

Warm greetings and take care.
Sante



IMG_20200331_192133.jpg
 Mineral: Andradite (variety demantoid), asbestos
 Locality:
Malenco Valley (Valmalenco), Sondrio Province, Lombardy, Italy
 Dimensions: 200 x 132 mm
 Description:
Large plate with many cascades of Demantoid. The biggest crystal is 8 mm.
 Viewed:  2053 Time(s)

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IMG_20200331_192313.jpg
 Mineral: Andradite (variety demantoid), asbestos
 Locality:
Malenco Valley (Valmalenco), Sondrio Province, Lombardy, Italy
 Dimensions: 200 x 132 mm
 Description:
Closer view,
 Viewed:  2053 Time(s)

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IMG_20200331_193328.jpg
 Mineral: Andradite (variety demantoid), asbestos
 Locality:
Malenco Valley (Valmalenco), Sondrio Province, Lombardy, Italy
 Dimensions: 200 x 132 mm
 Description:
Direct lighting.
 Viewed:  2056 Time(s)

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IMG_20200331_193203.jpg
 Mineral: Andradite (variety demantoid), asbestos
 Locality:
Malenco Valley (Valmalenco), Sondrio Province, Lombardy, Italy
 Dimensions: 200 x 132 mm
 Description:
Detail.
 Viewed:  2052 Time(s)

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IMG_20200331_193111.jpg
 Mineral: Andradite (variety demantoid), asbestos
 Locality:
Malenco Valley (Valmalenco), Sondrio Province, Lombardy, Italy
 Dimensions: 200 x 132 mm
 Description:
Detail.
 Viewed:  2052 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Apr 10, 2020 15:52    Post subject: Re: Collection of Sante Celiberti - A mineralogical trip through Italy  

Hello.

With these last photos I momentarily suspend the theme of minerals from the Italian Alps.
I think six months on the same topic are too many even for the kindest visitors.

I'm pleased to share in this forum one of the largest plates of hessonite garnet from Piedmont Alps.

Best regards. Stay safe.
Sante



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 Mineral: Grossular (variety hessonite), Clinochlore
 Locality:
Alpe delle Frasse, Condove, Susa Valley, Metropolitan City of Turin Province, Piedmont (Piemonte), Italy
 Dimensions: 350 x 220 mm
 Description:
Biggest hessonite is 7 mm.
 Viewed:  2015 Time(s)

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IMG_20200331_121547.jpg
 Mineral: Grossular (variety hessonite), Clinochlore
 Locality:
Alpe delle Frasse, Condove, Susa Valley, Metropolitan City of Turin Province, Piedmont (Piemonte), Italy
 Dimensions: 350 x 220 mm
 Description:
Detail.
 Viewed:  2012 Time(s)

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IMG_20200331_121431.jpg
 Mineral: Grossular (variety hessonite), Clinochlore
 Locality:
Alpe delle Frasse, Condove, Susa Valley, Metropolitan City of Turin Province, Piedmont (Piemonte), Italy
 Dimensions: 350 x 220 mm
 Description:
Detail.
 Viewed:  2014 Time(s)

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IMG_20200331_121214.jpg
 Mineral: Grossular (variety hessonite), Clinochlore
 Locality:
Alpe delle Frasse, Condove, Susa Valley, Metropolitan City of Turin Province, Piedmont (Piemonte), Italy
 Dimensions: 350 x 220 mm
 Description:
Detail.
 Viewed:  2017 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Apr 11, 2020 16:30    Post subject: Re: Collection of Sante Celiberti - A mineralogical trip through Italy  

Hello.

Two Tuscan specimens.

Greetings.
Sante



IMG_20200326_195645.jpg
 Mineral: Pyrite
 Locality:
Gavorrano Mine, Gavorrano, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 72 x 49 mm
 Description:
From the long closed, most important European Pyrite mine, a group of pentagonal-dodecahedrons with cubic modifications and interrupted growth.
 Viewed:  1976 Time(s)

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IMG_20200326_194649.jpg
 Mineral: Pyrite
 Locality:
Gavorrano Mine, Gavorrano, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 72 x 49 mm
 Description:
Detail. A precious texture, due to interrupted growth.
 Viewed:  1970 Time(s)

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IMG_20200326_195026.jpg
 Mineral: Pyrite
 Locality:
Gavorrano Mine, Gavorrano, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 72 x 49 mm
 Description:
Another detail. The biggest crystal is 39 mm.
 Viewed:  1975 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Cinnabar
 Locality:
Cerreto Piano, Scansano, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 41 x 39 mm
 Description:
A complete nodule with a spherical shape, self-collected.
 Viewed:  1975 Time(s)

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IMG_20200411_194849.jpg
 Mineral: Cinnabar
 Locality:
Cerreto Piano, Scansano, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 41 x 39 mm
 Description:
Closer view.
 Viewed:  1972 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Apr 11, 2020 16:51    Post subject: Re: Collection of Sante Celiberti - A mineralogical trip through Italy  

Hello Sante,

I like both the Pyrite and Cinnabar. Good size, interest and quality.

Stay safe.

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PostPosted: Apr 11, 2020 18:45    Post subject: Re: Collection of Sante Celiberti - A mineralogical trip through Italy  

Thank you, Don.

You are very kind, but since I play at home, I don't have much merit with Tuscan minerals that I will continue to share (covid 19 permitting...).
It was far more laborious to assemble the Alpine collection.

Here other two Tuscan specimens.

Stay safe.
Sante



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 Mineral: Pyrite
 Locality:
Gavorrano Mine, Gavorrano, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 125 x 108 mm
 Description:
A crystal of 125 mm with growth stages. The habit is a dominant cube modified by diploid and dodecahedron. Absent the octahedron, normally associated to diploidal modifications.
 Viewed:  1958 Time(s)

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IMG_20200411_190147.jpg
 Mineral: Pyrite
 Locality:
Gavorrano Mine, Gavorrano, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 125 x 108 mm
 Description:
Rear view. The coarse crystalization indicates that the specimen was slightly attached to the matrix. No signs of concoid fractures.
 Viewed:  1958 Time(s)

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IMG_20200411_190619.jpg
 Mineral: Pyrite
 Locality:
Gavorrano Mine, Gavorrano, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 125 x 108 mm
 Description:
Different view. Dodecahedral modifications on the left side.
 Viewed:  1958 Time(s)

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IMG_20200411_191406.jpg
 Mineral: Pyrite
 Locality:
Gavorrano Mine, Gavorrano, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 125 x 108 mm
 Description:
Different view. Parallel diploidal modifications.
 Viewed:  1953 Time(s)

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IMG_20200401_171546.jpg
 Mineral: Chalcanthite
 Locality:
Boccheggiano Mines, Montieri, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 78 x 61 mm
 Description:
Normally Chalcanthite comes in form of stalactites (more or less crystallized). This is a stalagmite, formed by dripping, self-collected on the soil of a tunnel.
 Viewed:  1957 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Apr 12, 2020 17:38    Post subject: Re: Collection of Sante Celiberti - A mineralogical trip through Italy  

Hello.

From Tuscany.

Greetings. Take care.
Sante



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 Mineral: Sulphur, Pyrite
 Locality:
Niccioleta Mine, Massa Marittima, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 59 x 35 mm
 Description:
Niccioleta mine was one of most important in Italy. Pyrites coming from there, with crystals till 20 cm, are a classic not only for Italian collectors. Gypsum was also quite common in the mine. Sulphur, less common, is generally associated with Gypsum and, seldom, with Pyrite.
 Viewed:  1864 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Sulphur, Pyrite
 Locality:
Niccioleta Mine, Massa Marittima, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 59 x 35 mm
 Description:
Rear view. The biggest Sulphur crystal is 11 mm.
 Viewed:  1863 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Stibnite
 Locality:
Pereta Mine, Pereta, Magliano in Toscana, Grosseto Province, Toscana, Italy
 Dimensions: 80,7 x 60,7 mm
 Description:
Aerial group of terminated crystals till 36 mm.
 Viewed:  1866 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Apr 13, 2020 02:49    Post subject: Re: Collection of Sante Celiberti - A mineralogical trip through Italy  

Wonderful specimens again, Sante, thanks for sharing!
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PostPosted: Apr 13, 2020 07:10    Post subject: Re: Collection of Sante Celiberti - A mineralogical trip through Italy  

Hello, Tobi.

Thanks for your kind comment.
I dedicate to you next Tuscan specimen: first for your fondness for galena and second because it shows a certain "Neudorf" style.
I hope you like it.

Greetings from Gavorrano.
Sante



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 Mineral: Galena, Sphalerite, Siderite, Quartz
 Locality:
Bottino Mine, Sant'Anna (Sant'Anna di Stazzema), Apuan Alps, Stazzema Municipality, Lucca Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 65 x 51 mm
 Description:
This Galena, from one of most important and classic Tuscan mine, shows the same habit, luster and associations of those from Neudorf.
 Viewed:  1801 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Apr 13, 2020 08:01    Post subject: Re: Collection of Sante Celiberti - A mineralogical trip through Italy  

Wonderful galena specimen Sante. I love the association with siderite, sphalerite, and quartz.
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PostPosted: Apr 13, 2020 08:45    Post subject: Re: Collection of Sante Celiberti - A mineralogical trip through Italy  

that is indeed a fine galena! It looks like the crystals are spinel twins, too.
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PostPosted: Apr 13, 2020 10:31    Post subject: Re: Collection of Sante Celiberti - A mineralogical trip through Italy  

Sante Celiberti wrote:
Hello, Tobi. Thanks for your kind comment. I dedicate to you next Tuscan specimen: first for your fondness for galena and second because it shows a certain "Neudorf" style. I hope you like it.
I don't like it, I LOVE it!!! Very beautiful galena specimen, one of the best I've seen from Italy!
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PostPosted: Apr 13, 2020 11:33    Post subject: Re: Collection of Sante Celiberti - A mineralogical trip through Italy  

... and a good photo too ...!
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PostPosted: Apr 13, 2020 16:20    Post subject: Re: Collection of Sante Celiberti - A mineralogical trip through Italy  

Many thanks to all of you.

Michael, I'm happy that you like it. I was fortunate to find it in an old Tuscan collection. :-)

Pete, your very experienced eye (despite your recent surgery) sees better than before: yes, they are spinel twins. Take care. :-)

Tobi, coming from a galena lover, this is a big compliment. :-)

Rob, I'm aware that I'm a bad photographer. Simply, in this case the piece was photogenic. :-)


Campiano mine, despite being a pyrite mine, didn't produce collectible specimens of this mineral. In return it gave very beautiful samples of anhydrite and fluorite.

Warm greetings. Stay safe.
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IMG_20200413_185231.jpg
 Mineral: Fluorite, Anhydrite, Pyrite
 Locality:
Campiano Mine, Montieri, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 57 x 30 mm
 Description:
Water clear dodecahedra of Fluorite till 7 mm, some included by Pyrite, with tabular crystals of white Anhydrite till 10 mm.
 Viewed:  1709 Time(s)

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IMG_20200413_191125.jpg
 Mineral: Fluorite, Anhydrite, Pyrite
 Locality:
Campiano Mine, Montieri, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 57 x 30 mm
 Description:
The transparence, luster and brightness of these crystals rival those of Naica, Dalnegorsk or Inner Mongolia. It's a pity that they rarely exceed 15 mm.
 Viewed:  1711 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Apr 14, 2020 04:44    Post subject: Re: Collection of Sante Celiberti - A mineralogical trip through Italy  

Sante Celiberti wrote:
Tobi, coming from a galena lover, this is a big compliment. :-)
It is, and well-deserved :-)
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PostPosted: Apr 14, 2020 18:25    Post subject: Re: Collection of Sante Celiberti - A mineralogical trip through Italy  

Hello.

When, in the 1960s, I met my wife we were students in Rome, both from two different Italian regions.
Intrigued by her accent, I asked her where she was from. She replied: "Gavorrano". "Gavorrano..?". "Yes, where the pyrite mines are". "Pyrite..?". "O.k. I'll bring you a piece...".

My collection was born and developed in the name of pyrite.
While being attracted, like all of us, to aesthetic pieces, over time I began to appreciate the variety of crystallizations, modifications, associations, etc.

This premise was necessary because I will share many pyrite samples, since this has been the most exploited mineral in Tuscany since the Etruscan times, if not before.
I hope you find them interesting.

Warm greetings from Gavorrano and take care.
Sante



IMG_20200413_194710.jpg
 Mineral: Pyrite
 Locality:
Gavorrano Mine, Gavorrano, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 113 x 92 mm
 Description:
Lustrous cubic crystals till 34 mm, modified by dodecahedron, octahedron and diploid. Practically, the four basic habits.
 Viewed:  1625 Time(s)

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IMG_20200413_195736.jpg
 Mineral: Pyrite
 Locality:
Gavorrano Mine, Gavorrano, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 113 x 92 mm
 Description:
All the dodecahedral faces modifying the cube are jagged:
- sometimes the growth facets are sub-parallel to the dodecahedral modification;
- other times they are parallel to the diploid. In this case we are in the presence of a modification of the modification..!
On the cube corners there are:
- octahedral modifications, with indented surface;
- diploidal modifications, with smooth surface.
 Viewed:  1623 Time(s)

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IMG_20200222_170942.jpg
 Mineral: Stibnite, Stibiconite, Gypsum
 Locality:
Torre Carige, Capalbio, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 155 x 132 mm
 Description:
Acquired just before quarantine from a very old Tuscan collection.
 Viewed:  1624 Time(s)

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IMG_20200222_172207.jpg
 Mineral: Stibnite, Stibiconite, Gypsum
 Locality:
Torre Carige, Capalbio, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 155 x 132 mm
 Description:
Detail. Largest crystal 65 mm.
 Viewed:  1625 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Apr 15, 2020 06:46    Post subject: Re: Collection of Sante Celiberti - A mineralogical trip through Italy  

Sante Celiberti wrote:
Pyrite
Locality: Gavorrano Mine, Gavorrano, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy
Dimensions: 113 x 92 mm
An impressive pyrite, Sante, really nice. I like to learn a lot about Italian minerals through your collection thread, thanks :-)

Please more, best regards & stay safe!
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PostPosted: Apr 15, 2020 10:30    Post subject: Re: Collection of Sante Celiberti - A mineralogical trip through Italy  

Hi, Tobi.

Thank you, I'm happy you found it interesting.

Here are two aesthetically insignificant, but mineralogically instructive small samples.

Stay safe.
Sante



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 Mineral: Pyrite
 Locality:
Gavorrano Mine, Gavorrano, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 68,7 x 34,5 mm
 Description:
Text book example of conchoidal fracture. For mine technicians, proof of the excellent quality of the mineral.
 Viewed:  1545 Time(s)

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IMG_20200415_111554.jpg
 Mineral: Pyrite
 Locality:
Gavorrano Mine, Gavorrano, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 26 x 20,3 mm
 Description:
A fifty faceted floater crystal.
A modified cube by dodecahedron, octahedron and diploid. (6 cube + 12 dodecahedron + 8 octahedron + 24 diploid/triacisoctahedron = 50).
The triangle in the upper front face belongs to dodecahedron. The triangle in the upper left side belongs to octahedron. The surrounding three faces belong to diploid.
 Viewed:  1548 Time(s)

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IMG_20200415_110119.jpg
 Mineral: Pyrite
 Locality:
Gavorrano Mine, Gavorrano, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 26 x 20,3 mm
 Description:
Different view with the octahedral and diploidal modifications in evidence. This octahedral face is quite odd: the lustrous central part (although not triangular) might be the real octahedral modification, while the opaque, surrounding, triangular (not complanar) frame might be a diploidal modification of first order; so that the external three bigger faces would become diploidal modifications of second order.
Sorry for the nuisance...
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PostPosted: Apr 15, 2020 17:49    Post subject: Re: Collection of Sante Celiberti - A mineralogical trip through Italy  

Hello.

Four pyrites more from four different Tuscan localities, but all of them with a common denominator.
The crystallographic literature defines the pentagonal-dodecahedron as an "impossible crystal". Let's say, to exemplify a lot, that in a dodecahedron there cannot be regular pentagons. Even the most perfect of pyritohedrons is an "impossible crystal".
So what to say about such deformed pyritohedra?
I hope you find them interesting.

Best greetings from Tuscany.
Sante



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 Mineral: Pyrite
 Locality:
Gavorrano Mine, Gavorrano, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 20,2 x 15,7 x 8 mm
 Description:
A floater, flat, deformed pyritohedron with sub-parallel growth stages.
 Viewed:  1502 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Pyrite
 Locality:
Boccheggiano Mines, Montieri, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 34,3 x 23,5 x 9 mm
 Description:
A floater, flat pyritohedron with deep triglyph striations.
 Viewed:  1503 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Pyrite
 Locality:
Niccioleta Mine, Massa Marittima, Grosseto Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 67 x 50 x 18 mm
 Description:
A floater pyritohedron with a tabular habit.
 Viewed:  1503 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Pyrite, Hematite
 Locality:
Rio Marina, Elba Island, Livorno Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 24 x 19,5 x 7 mm
 Description:
A floater, very flat, iridescent pyritohedron with hematite.
 Viewed:  1508 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Pyrite, Hematite
 Locality:
Rio Marina, Elba Island, Livorno Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 24 x 19,5 x 7 mm
 Description:
Different view.
 Viewed:  1503 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Apr 15, 2020 19:00    Post subject: Re: Collection of Sante Celiberti - A mineralogical trip through Italy  

Hello Sante,

Very impressive Pyrite crystals. Boggles the mind.

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PostPosted: Apr 15, 2020 22:31    Post subject: Re: Collection of Sante Celiberti - A mineralogical trip through Italy  

Sante,
I was so excited that someone else is interested in the variety of crystal faces of pyrite. My first image is of a small crystal with an octahedra face on a cube. It's from Elba. The dealer showed me that pyrite could have other forms than the cube. That got me going down a road of adventure.
In 2003 I presented a program on how to identify pyrite faces using Peruvian crystals at Tucson. It can be found at the Rochester of Science web site - rasny(.)org
Photos of two of my favorite Italian crystals are also attached.
'Sorry about the photo quality. It is a rush job.



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 Mineral: Pyrite
 Locality:
Elba Island, Livorno Province, Tuscany, Italy
 Dimensions: 1.5x.9x.9 cm
 Description:
 Viewed:  1472 Time(s)

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 Mineral: pyrite
 Locality:
Traversella, Chiusella Valley, Canavese District, Metropolitan City of Turin Province, Piedmont (Piemonte), Italy
 Dimensions: 1.4x1.4x1.3
 Description:
Five faces meet at a point - the four on either sides are diploid and the middle, bottom is cube.
 Viewed:  1476 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Pyrite
 Locality:
Traversella, Chiusella Valley, Canavese District, Metropolitan City of Turin Province, Piedmont (Piemonte), Italy
 Dimensions: 1.2x1.4x1.5 cm
 Description:
Another five face point with 4 diploids to either side and cube faces at bottom and on top.
 Viewed:  1472 Time(s)

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