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Forrestblyth
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 Posted: Jun 07, 2025 13:33 Post subject: Bayldonite, Brandy Gill Mine, Caldbeck Fells Cumbria |
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One of my more interesting Caldbeck Fell location specimens not often visited or found.
Brandy Gill Mine
I plan to explore this location in 3 weeks time
| Mineral: | Bayldonite |
| Locality: | | Brandy Gill Mine Mine, Mungrisdale, Eden District, former Cumberland, Cumbria, England / United Kingdom |  |
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| Dimensions: | 0.1 mm |
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| Mineral: | Bayldonite |
| Locality: | | Brandy Gill Mine Mine, Mungrisdale, Eden District, former Cumberland, Cumbria, England / United Kingdom | |
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| Dimensions: | 0.1 mm |
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| Mineral: | _label of the Bayldonite |
| Locality: | | Brandy Gill Mine Mine, Mungrisdale, Eden District, former Cumberland, Cumbria, England / United Kingdom | |
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| Dimensions: | 30mm |
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| Bayldonite, Brandy Gill Mine, Caldbeck Fells Cumbria |
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Jordi Fabre
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| Posted: Jun 07, 2025 14:50 Post subject: Re: Bayldonite, Brandy Gill Mine, Caldbeck Fells Cumbria |
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| Forrestblyth wrote: | Mineral: Bayldonite
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Are you sure? It looks a lot like Pyromorphite...
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Forrestblyth
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| Posted: Jun 07, 2025 15:37 Post subject: Re: Bayldonite, Brandy Gill Mine, Caldbeck Fells Cumbria |
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| Jordi Fabre wrote: | | Forrestblyth wrote: | Mineral: Bayldonite
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Are you sure? It looks a lot like Pyromorphite... |
I hope it is identified correctly. I trust Steetley minerals to have correctly identified and listed it. I was very excited to find it and discussed it with the proprietor, he was very knowledgeable
However. there is the remote possibility for them to misidentify but I hope not as I paid a premium for this specimen.
I have seen pyromorphites collected from this mine and they had the brighter yellower look rather like the material from the Mexico mine. This specimen has a dull sage colouration to it.
I will ask the proprietor to check the ID again as I will be attending the North of England mineral exposition and he has a stand at this event.
I do hope its correct as i really like this piece and material from Brandy gill is so hard to acquire.
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Forrestblyth
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| Posted: Jun 07, 2025 15:50 Post subject: Re: Bayldonite, Brandy Gill Mine, Caldbeck Fells Cumbria |
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I remember he said it was Ex Keith Snell Collection.
This was another listed at the time
Similar lustre and colouration
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Michael Shaw
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| Posted: Jun 07, 2025 21:10 Post subject: Re: Bayldonite, Brandy Gill Mine, Caldbeck Fells Cumbria |
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| This last photo looks like a typical Bayldonite from Brandy Gill Mine and is quite different from the first photo of your specimen which shows elongate prismatic crystals. Check all of the Brandy Gill Bayldonite photos on Mindat. I don't see anything resembling your piece. I would be suspicious of the ID.
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Forrestblyth
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| Posted: Jun 08, 2025 14:53 Post subject: Re: Bayldonite, Brandy Gill Mine, Caldbeck Fells Cumbria |
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| Michael Shaw wrote: | | This last photo looks like a typical Bayldonite from Brandy Gill Mine and is quite different from the first photo of your specimen which shows elongate prismatic crystals. Check all of the Brandy Gill Bayldonite photos on Mindat. I don't see anything resembling your piece. I would be suspicious of the ID. |
I am starting to have concerns myself now. I suppose I wouldn't be the first or last collector to purchase a misidentified specimen.
I do believe I was sold it in good faith. Steetley minerals is my go to dealer for Caldbeck Fell material and I have had dozens of specimens from them with perfect provenance. I have complete confidence in their integrity.
These things happen, I would never have the patience to hold a dealer table contending with the rugby scrum of collectors examining two or more pieces in the hand and trusting them to re box them correctly.
Thank you both for alerting me to the problem
regards Forrest
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