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nurbo
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Posted: Jul 08, 2011 15:37 Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo |
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I just got some new world specimens,
Who doesnt love San Fracisco Mine Wulfenite's with Mimetite Inclusions? I do,
and a Calcite on Amethyst, sadly the locality for the Calcite is only given as "Minas Gerais" which as far as I know is very vague, given that Minas Gerais is the size of France. If any onlookers have seen this material before and know the actual mine it comes from please tell me.
Have any "CombineZ" users noticed that sometimes it mirrors the end of the image? It leads to some interesting accidents which I might post in due course.
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Wulfenite Mimetite San Francisco Mine ( Cerro Prieto Mine) Cerro Prieto, Curcurpe, Municipio de Curcupe, Mexico Wulfenite measures 5mm across. |
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Calcite on Amethyst Minas Gerais Calcite measures 35 mm. |
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nurbo
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Posted: Jul 15, 2011 17:06 Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo |
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A recent aquisition
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Specularite with Quartz on Hematite. West Cumberland Iron Ore Fields. Same ore body that is worked at the Florence Mine though this is from an unnamed mine several miles from that site. The ore body that was worked at Florence had over 400 mines and pits dug into it and this is from one of those. Hematite measures 5mm across the top |
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nurbo
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Posted: Jul 16, 2011 01:03 Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo |
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Is there a reason why my posts keep having the spelling of HAEmatite changed to HEmatite? ? I always use the latin based spelling with HAE since thats how we spell it in England and its our language, I know the USA chooses to spell it Hematite and thats fine if your an American, but Im not. I always, without exception spell this word in the traditional manner that I was taught at school and find it bizarre that it should be edited into (What I consider) an incorrect spelling on a Spanish forum.
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Jordi Fabre
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Posted: Jul 16, 2011 05:20 Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo |
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nurbo wrote: |
Is there a reason why my posts keep having the spelling of HAEmatite changed to HEmatite? ? I always use the latin based spelling with HAE since thats how we spell it in England and its our language, I know the USA chooses to spell it Hematite and thats fine if your an American, but Im not. I always, without exception spell this word in the traditional manner that I was taught at school and find it bizarre that it should be edited into (What I consider) an incorrect spelling on a Spanish forum. Since this post now has a reply I cannot edit it back either..
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Good question Nurbo.
In order to normalize the names of the minerals it exist a comision, the IMA/CNMNC List of Mineral Names -> https://pubsites.uws.edu.au/ima-cnmnc/MINERALlist.pdf and the vast majority of sites and collectors follow that list. On that list the name for the iron(III) oxide is Hematite (on Spanish language: Hematites) and that's why I changed your Haematite to the normalized Hematite.
I do frequently this kind of revision also with other members, because is normal do some mistake when typing and I believe is useful have a common name for the same mineral species, instead few different names that could confuse people (specially considering that this Forum is international and many members are not so familiar with the English language)
Anyway, Nurbo this is your thread, if finally you prefer Haematite instead Hematite I will re-write all current "Hematite" to "Haematite".
Last thing: please consider that all your specimens are listed automatically in FMF Gallery -> https://www.topminerals.info/index.php?searchterms=&searchauthor=nurbo&level=search and as many people are using the search of the gallery to find specimens, if the name of your specimens return to "Haematite" and they search by the normalized word "Hematite" they don't will find them.
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...an incorrect spelling on a Spanish forum.
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This is an English Forum Nurbo, the Spanish Forum (totally different) is this one -> https://www.foro-minerales.com
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nurbo
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Posted: Jul 16, 2011 06:36 Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo |
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Hi Jordi,
that explains it, to me the best thing about English is the way we have several different words for the same thing, odd ways of spelling things where the same letters can be pronounced completely differently depending on the word. and even one word meaning different things depending on the context, I tend to spell the way I was taught, dont get me wrong Im not against American's spelling thing's any way they feel like, if they want to leave the letter u out of words like colour and favour thats entirely their business, but I kind of get a bit angry when these adaptations are absorbed into the English spoken and written here in England, I see no reason why these things cant happily co-exist, when English spellings are lost due to the excessive amount of American television people watch here it creates among many, an animosity towards America, I do often hear people express very negative views about this matter. Im not that bothered but I do always spell Haematite in that way and always have which is why I noticed, I noticed it first with the unusual metasomatic replacement of Haematite after Calcite that I posted on the previous page but thought Id try to ignore it.
I understand that in an international environment there must be some kind of consensus on spelling and that for reasons way beyond my control this will always mean the American way will win out. If through spelling Haematite Hematite this provides any benefit within the operation of the forum then Im happy to spell it that way in title postings in future, though I will revert to what is in my mind the correct spelling in the accompanying message, I would suggest though that if this word is to be spelt this way then there are quite a number of other Haematites, in this collection thread that should also be changed to give continuity.
I thought this was an English language section of a Spanish website, .Im confused now, is the Spanish section a Spanish section of an English website or is this two distinct websites? Sorry if I seem pedantic but I have a hangover.
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Posted: Jul 16, 2011 11:40 Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo |
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nurbo wrote: |
I thought this was an English language section of a Spanish website, .Im confused now, is the Spanish section a Spanish section of an English website or is this two distinct websites? Sorry if I seem pedantic but I have a hangover.
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Two totally distinct websites. You are not member of the Spanish Forum as well as the members of the Spanish Forum are not members of the English Forum.
Even the URL (domains) are different: https://www.mineral-forum.com (English Forum) / https://www.foro-minerales.com (Spanish Forum)
I will rewrite all "Haematite" of your thread to "Hematite" ASAP. Thank you for the comprehension.
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nurbo
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Posted: Jul 17, 2011 02:03 Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo |
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Thanks Jordi,
I was recently lucky enough to get my hands on some more Florence Mine pieces so while were on the subject of Hematite and the West Cumberland Iron Ore field I thought itd be a good time to post some photo's.
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Aragonite and Quartz on Hematite Florence Mine, Egremont, Cumbria Aragonites to 12 mm |
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Fluorite on Hematite Florence Mine, Egremont Cumbria. FOV approx 30 mm |
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Eisenkiesel on Hematite Florence Mine, Egremont, Cumbria. FOV approx 35 mm |
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Aragonite on Hematite Florence Mine Egremont Cumbria. 12 cm across |
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Calcite on Hematite West Cumberland Iron Ore Fields FOV 50mm |
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nurbo
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Posted: Aug 02, 2011 01:55 Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo |
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Here is a really excellent Baryte on Hematite from the Florence Mine, the Baryte measures 35 mm,
Next is another of my Vanadinites, this one from the T West mine in Mibladen.
I mentioned recently about the strange mirroring of the edges of photos when using combinez, heres a Calcite on Harmotome from Strontian with a mouse at the edge! personally I like it when things like this happen, Ive added a close up of the mouse too, Ive got several more of these strange accidents which Ill find and post in due course.
Finally for today a Gold on Quartz specimen from Ireland.
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Baryte on Specularite on Hematite with Quartz and Eisenkiesel Florence Mine, Egremont, Cumbria 12 cm's (Approx) Baryte to 35 mm. |
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Vanadinite Mibladene, Upper Moulouya lead district, Midelt, Khénifra Province, Meknès-Tafilalet Region, Morocco 30 mm (Max dimension) |
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Calcite on Harmotome Strontian Mine, Strontian, Argyll, Scotland. Calcite measures 10 mm. |
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Calcite Strontian Mine, Strontian, Argyll, Scotland. Calcite measures 10 mm.
Close up of the "Mouse" formed by a glitch in the combinez stacking software. |
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Gold on Quartz B Vein, Leccanvey Prospect, Croagh Patrick, Co Mayo, Northern Ireland 30 mm tall. |
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nurbo
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Posted: Aug 16, 2011 02:09 Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo |
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Heres a nice Malachite I was lucky enough to bag recently.
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Malachite Star of the Congo mine, Democratic Republic of Congo. 8 cm long |
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Malachite Star of the Congo Mine FOV approx 60 mm |
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Malachite Star of the Congo Mine FOV approx 25 mm |
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nurbo
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Posted: Aug 19, 2011 17:09 Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo |
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Hello,
in my post of Augost 2nd I stated that the specimen was a "Really excellent Aragonite" I based this on what Gilbert told me but actually it turns out to be Baryte could one of the mofs adjust the references to Aragonite on that piece to read Baryte please? A good friend who is very well informed on Northern Barytes pointed this out and he is right.
thanks
db
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Thanks for pointing it out
Corrected
Carles M.
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nurbo
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Posted: Aug 21, 2011 00:59 Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo |
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Hi Jordi,
The guy this came from has been a mineral dealer since the 1970's and told me he had "Shifted flats and flats of Vanadinite from the T West mine", this was from one such flat, and came with a printed label maintaining it was from the T West mine. But I wasnt there when it was mined nor was my supplier so who knows. Maybe its another case of miners putting a different locality to help shift more material. Though I did see on Mindat that Vanadinite is the only mineral referenced at T West, though the photo gallery on there has only images of Aragonite and Gypsum,.As always, Im easy whichever way, change it to ACF if you like.
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Posted: Aug 21, 2011 02:24 Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo |
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Considering the doubt about the real mine I deleted T-West Mine but I don't replaced by another name. Mibladen is right for sure, as it is some possibility that this Vanadinite comes also from some other mine, shaft or hole of that area, probably better use the safer ;-)
Thanks for the understanding. The Vanadinites from T-West Mine are very characteristic, quite different of other Vanadinite from Mibladen (in fact T-West Mine is located close Midelt) and them are very easy to recognize. Your specimen don't seems to me match the typical shape of the T-West specimens.
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nurbo
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Posted: Aug 21, 2011 16:01 Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo |
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Hi Jordi, that sounds interesting, got any photos for us so we can all see what you mean? I like unusual Vanadinites, heres a pretty lousy picture of one its an ex Richard Bell piece a green Vanadinite sphere coated in canary yellow Pyromorphite, its really small though measuring only around 2-3 mm across. the whole piece is approx 2cm tall, theres a green Vanadinite without the pyro round the other side too, its a real beauty so long as your happy to use microscopes and lenses, and I am :-)
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Vanadinite Pyromorphite Belton Grain, Wanlockhead, Dumfrieshire, Scotland Vanadinite approx 2-3mm The Vanadinite that is covered in Pyromorphite |
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Vanadinite Belton Grain, Wanlockhead, Dumfrieshire, Scotland Vanadinite to 2-3 mm This one hasnt got the covering of Pyromorphite. |
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Posted: Aug 21, 2011 16:27 Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo |
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nurbo wrote: |
...got any photos for us so we can all see what you mean?
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I will try
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Posted: Aug 23, 2011 10:01 Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo |
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nurbo wrote: | ...got any photos for us so we can all see what you mean?
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Here it is. As you can see is really different! ;-)
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Vanadinite T-West Mine, Midelt, Khénifra, Morocco 6! x 5.3 x 2.8 cm. Jordi Fabre private collection Photo: Jordi Deusedes |
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Posted: Aug 23, 2011 18:37 Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo |
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Wow thanks Jordi, thats a spectacular piece/
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Posted: Aug 25, 2011 02:20 Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo |
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Intriguingly Jordi I have a piece very similar, Ive attached photos of it, on one side is a very nice rosette of Vanadinites (I posted this last year on page 6 of this thread) but this side looks like your T-West piece. Ive not tested the white mineral coating part of this piece but I believe it to be Gypsum for some reasonI cant remember, I think I saw a similar association from th ACF area on mindat or somewhere, any how the point being are both sides of these T-West pieces oddly skeletal looking or could my "Rosette" maybe be from T-West and not ACF as I previously thought?
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Vanadinite ACF area shafts, Mibladen, Midelt, Khénifra, Meknès-Tafilalet, Morocco ? 25mm (max dimension) |
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Vanadinite ACF area shafts, Mibladen, Midelt, Khénifra, Meknès-Tafilalet, Morocco ? 25mm (max dimension) |
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Vanadinite ACF area shafts, Mibladen, Midelt, Khénifra, Meknès-Tafilalet, Morocco ? 25mm (max dimension) |
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Posted: Aug 25, 2011 02:53 Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo |
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Is some kind of manganese or iron oxide in the specimen, like the Hollandite from Taouz? some kind of very small black "tree"?
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Posted: Aug 26, 2011 01:19 Post subject: Re: Collection of Nurbo |
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Hi Jordi,
Ive looked the piece over very carefully and I can find no Manganese oxide on it anywhere..
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