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h.abbasi

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Posted: Mar 27, 2012 01:55 Post subject: Is it really true? (the biggest emerald in the world) |
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I heard that the biggest emerald in the world is the Gachala Emerald. It weighs 858 carats. It was discovered in the Vega de San Juan mine in Columbia in 1967. The emerald is currently in the Smithsonian Institution in the US.
But now see it ,as a biggest in the world, its disbelieve.
Do you know anythings about it ?Is it true? _________________ Instead of winning in something which I hate , prefer to lose in which I enjoy ! |
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Pierre Joubert
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Posted: Mar 27, 2012 02:38 Post subject: Re: Is it really true?(the biggest emerald in the world) |
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It is fraud!!!!!! _________________ Pierre Joubert
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h.abbasi

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Posted: Mar 27, 2012 03:20 Post subject: Re: Is it really true?(the biggest emerald in the world) |
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See:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfo2HOeml5A, too.
(link normalized by FMF) _________________ Instead of winning in something which I hate , prefer to lose in which I enjoy ! |
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Riccardo Modanesi
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Posted: Mar 27, 2012 07:46 Post subject: Re: Is it really true?(the biggest emerald in the world) |
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Hi to everybody!
I think you have to see the inclusions in this stone! Emerald has typical mineral inclusions as well as growth lines and channels!
Greetings from Italy by Riccardo. _________________ Hi! I'm a collector of minerals since 1973 and a gemmologist. On Summer I always visit mines and quarries all over Europe looking for minerals! Ok, there is time to tell you much much more! Greetings from Italy by Riccardo. |
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Harjo

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Posted: Mar 27, 2012 11:29 Post subject: Re: Is it really true?(the biggest emerald in the world) |
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I think it's an Emerald, but of very low quality (and very badly cut...)
It's supposed to be auctioned somewhere in Canada, if I remember correctly. The estimated selling price was ridiculously high.
It'll probably be bought by someone ONLY because of it's size.... |
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Pierre Joubert
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Posted: Mar 27, 2012 13:15 Post subject: Re: Is it really true?(the biggest emerald in the world) |
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Today, its owner Regan Reaney, has been arrested on fraud charges and the gem is left unsold at a B.C. auction.
Huffington Post _________________ Pierre Joubert
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Jesse Fisher

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Posted: Mar 27, 2012 14:14 Post subject: Re: Is it really true?(the biggest emerald in the world) |
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Please explain - what about it is a fraud? Is it not beryl? Is it not worth the millions that the owner likely thinks it is? Is the supposed owner not really the owner? |
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Tracy

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Posted: Mar 27, 2012 14:47 Post subject: Re: Is it really true?(the biggest emerald in the world) |
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National Post, 29 January 2012:
The man claiming to have the world’s largest cut emerald has been arrested in Kelowna, B.C., in connection to allegations of multiple fraud offences that took place in Ontario.
Regan Reaney claims the massive green crystal, which he bought recently in India, is a 57,500 carat emerald worth at least $1.15 million. His massive gem was set to be auctioned off Saturday through Western Star Auctions in Kelowna. He hoped to earn seven-figures for it at the auction.
The auctioning off of Reaney’s gem went on as planned, but it didn’t sell, said Barb Johns of Western Star Auctions.
She declined to comment further on the matter.
Kelowna RCMP confirmed in a news release that they executed outstanding warrants for Reaney’s arrest. They said he’s accused of multiple fraud offences out of Hamilton, Ont.
Police in Kelowna became aware of his warrants through interaction with Reaney and made the arrest once Ontario agreed to return him to their jurisdiction, they said in the release.
Reaney had recently arrived in Kelowna. Police said more details about the arrest would be available on Monday.
Earlier this month Jeff Nechka, of Premier Gems in Calgary, appraised Reaney’s big emerald. He said its value is in the size of it.
The opaque gem is only commercial quality but weighs 11.5 kilograms, he said.
Nechka said Reaney’s crystal was dyed—which he noted in the appraisal—but he said it’s probably green beryl that has been enhanced.
Emeralds are a rare form of the mineral beryl. White beryl is common and largely worthless.
“This is 100% real,” Reaney said last week. “There are other gemologists who have looked at this. It is enhanced and it’s dyed, we know that, but it is an emerald, 100%.”
But Shane McClure, the director of west coast identification services at the Gemological Institute of America in Carlsbad, California, said white beryl could be dyed any colour or intensity you want. He recommended that any potential buyer get a private appraisal before making a purchase like this.
- Tracy _________________ "Wisdom begins in wonder" - Socrates |
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Harjo

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Pierre Joubert
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Posted: Mar 27, 2012 14:51 Post subject: Re: Is it really true?(the biggest emerald in the world) |
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Jesse Fisher wrote: | Please explain - what about it is a fraud? Is it not beryl? Is it not worth the millions that the owner likely thinks it is? Is the supposed owner not really the owner? |
Hi Jesse. This chap's arrest is linked to other fraud charges. Let us keep watching the news. _________________ Pierre Joubert
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Jesse Fisher

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Posted: Mar 27, 2012 16:50 Post subject: Re: Is it really true?(the biggest emerald in the world) |
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Yes, Harjo, I think we can agree on it's relative beauty (or lack there-of)! |
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Tobi
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Posted: Mar 28, 2012 04:07 Post subject: Re: Is it really true?(the biggest emerald in the world) |
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Harjo wrote: | Ah well, it's an ugly thing anyway ;-) |
Exactly! And i pray that it IS fake: If this really was a large emerald crystal, it would break my heart to see what ugly chunk they made of it :-( |
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Pierre Joubert
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Posted: Nov 24, 2012 14:07 Post subject: Re: Is it really true? (the biggest emerald in the world) |
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What has happened to our 'rare, large emerald'??? While I wait for a reply, have a look at this:-)
https://www.floridabasic.com/gemsandjewels/archives/299
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Barry Vincent
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Posted: Jun 06, 2013 02:55 Post subject: Re: Is it really true? (the biggest emerald in the world) |
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What's with the facets ? Faceting this type of quality gem is meaningless.
At best it's just cabochon material.
A real 'fun' piece , not to be taken seriously. |
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Nico78
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Posted: Jul 20, 2013 05:46 Post subject: Re: Is it really true? (the biggest emerald in the world) |
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In fact One more crazy stroy about the gem's value on this day!
Two sad examples of the actual situation:
=> the over estimation/price in the buble market
=> the enhancment of the gem: heated, dryed, irradiate....
It's a pity to observate how people can be dream about Tanzanite in this moment as they don't know that all the specimens present in the market are heated and thus the color not natural. _________________ Young french geologist engineer somewhere around the world .
Also forgive me for my english syntax! I'm not yet fluent! |
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