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h.abbasi

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Posted: May 25, 2012 23:23 Post subject: Re: Maximum number of minerals on a specimen |
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Hi all
I have this specimen with 10 (and more) crystals and minerals .
A small collection in one specimen.
Fluorite, Lazurite, Malachite, Azurite, Galena, Baryte, Quartz, Calcite, Limonite, Hematite…
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Fluorite, Lazurite, Malachite, Azurite, Galena, Baryte, Quartz, Calcite, Limonite, Hematite… Komshejeh Mine (Komshecheh Mine), Komshejeh (Komshecheh), Ardestan County, Esfahan Province (Isfahan Province; Aspadana Province), Iran Field of view: 58*66 mm |
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Posted: May 26, 2012 02:18 Post subject: Re: Maximum number of minerals on a specimen |
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Pierre Joubert wrote: | What about hematite and other inclusions, do they count? |
Good question. Actually they should, but David started this thread with asking for the maximum number of "clearly visible" minerals. It always depends on how you define "visible". Do you mean inclusion that are visible as crystals, or such ones that are too small to see them? You mentioned hematite, good example! I have a specimen from Erzgebirge/Saxony that includes quartz, siderite and fluorite:
https://www.mineral-forum.com/message-board/files/ehr1_177.jpg
The quartz has a red colour, caused by hematite - but should i count this as a part of this specimen though the hematite is microscopically small and not visible an individual mineral?
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Posted: May 26, 2012 13:52 Post subject: Re: Maximum number of minerals on a specimen |
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I lag far behing with only 8... Maybe more, but hard to say.
Christophe
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Quartz, sphalerite, tetrahedrite, pyrite, hübnerite, bornite, fluorite, chalcopyrite Sulfide pocket, Sweet Home Mine, Alma, Colorado, USA. 18x10 cm |
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Posted: May 27, 2012 08:14 Post subject: Re: Maximum number of minerals on a specimen |
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I had in the past (maybe still have, but I don't know where, not at home...) a Panasqueira sample.
Carbonates: dolomite calcite siderite and apatite, mica, tourmaline, quartz, pyrite and chalcopyrite (millimetric for both), arsenopyrite included in the quartz.
But, ferberite, fluorite and cassiterite were missing....
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Riccardo Modanesi
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Posted: May 28, 2012 08:49 Post subject: Re: Maximum number of minerals on a specimen |
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Hi to everybody!
As the biggest majority of you should know (and I'm sure we all DO), almost all of the specimen (but for loose crystals and the majority of gemstones) contain at least 3 or 4 different mineral kinds! Quartz, calcite and mica (or serpentine) are contained in almost all of them and often we consider them "mother rock", thus accounting just of what we think "interesting" for our collection. Let me take an example of what I saw here above just now: the specimen Pierre showed here. What is interesting is the "rarest" mineral or minerals, in this case prehnite and analcime. Or, we coud start from the most "coloured" mineral, which gives a different appearance to the specimen, for example a well-coloured fluorite, or an azurite, or a malachite, etc.
But I think they are all subjective evaluations. Then take what I wrote here as a personal opinion, not an exact truth.
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Posted: Jun 08, 2012 22:36 Post subject: Re: Maximum number of minerals on a specimen |
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From my Mont Saint-Hilaire collection - peatite-(Y), ramikite-(Y), sabinaite, chabazite-Na, synchysite-Ce), gobbinsite. Not all would show in a single photo.
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Posted: Aug 12, 2016 11:02 Post subject: Re: maximum number of minerals on a specimen |
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Just found this interesting old topic and I have to revise my information:
David wrote: | Which is the maximum number of clearly visible minerals on a collectible specimen you know of? |
Tobi wrote: | In my personal collection the maximum number is 4 [...] | This specimen from Namibia contains three varieties of quartz (the main crystal is a colourless rock crystal with phantoms of amethyst AND smoky quartz) plus small balls of pale green prehnite and some smaller rhombohedral calcite crystals; so I have a specimen with FIVE different minerals now instead of four ;-)
Mineral: | Quartz, Quartz (variety smoky), Quartz (variety amethyst), Prehnite, Calcite |
Locality: | Goboboseb Mountains, Brandberg area, Erongo Region, Namibia |  |
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Dimensions: | Specimen size 8 cm, main crystal 6 cm |
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bob kerr

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Posted: Apr 27, 2018 18:55 Post subject: Sociable Sulfides |
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One aspect of mineral collecting I really enjoy is associations. Nothing seems to be more "sociable" in this area than sulfides. Here's two specimens that clearly show this trait. These are both from the Yaogangxian Mine, China and I plan to post a few photos of sulfide association from other localities.
The first specimen has at least 9 different species - so, here's a challenge - beat that!
bob
Mineral: | Jamesonite, Fluorite with Jamesonite included, Chalcopyrite, Arsenopyrite, Sphalerite, Goethite, Muscovite, Quartz and Calcite with Jamesonite inclusions |
Locality: | Yaogangxian Mine, Yizhang, Chenzhou Prefecture, Hunan Province, China |  |
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In this specimen I have found, jamesonite, fluorite (with jamesonite included), chalcopyrite, aresenopyrite, sphalerite, goethite, muscovite (iron stained blades), quartz and calcite (with jamesonite inclusions). |
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Mineral: | Jamesonite, Fluorite with Jamesonite included, Chalcopyrite, Arsenopyrite, Sphalerite, Goethite, Muscovite, Quartz and Calcite with Jamesonite inclusions |
Locality: | Yaogangxian Mine, Yizhang, Chenzhou Prefecture, Hunan Province, China |  |
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this is a close-up of the previous specimen |
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Mineral: | Fluorite, Chalcopyrite, Sphalerite, Quartz, Dolomite and Calcite |
Locality: | Yaogangxian Mine, Yizhang, Chenzhou Prefecture, Hunan Province, China |  |
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on this specimen are fluorite, chalcopyrite, sphalerite, quartz, dolomite and calcite |
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bob kerr

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Posted: Apr 27, 2018 19:20 Post subject: Re: Sociable Sulfides |
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Here's some other examples of sociable sulfides - these two specimens are from Trepca, Kosovo.
Mineral: | Pyrrhotite, Galena, Sphalerite, Boulangerite, Quartz, Dolomite and Calcite |
Locality: | Trepča Complex, Trepča Valley, Kosovska Mitrovica, Kosovska Mitrovica District, Kosovo |  |
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Dimensions: | 7.2 cm |
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this specimen contains pyrrhotite, galena, sphalerite, boulangerite, quartz, dolomite and calcite - and maybe others. |
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Mineral: | Pyrrhotite, Pyrite, Chalcopyrite, Sphalerite, Boulangerite, Quartz and Calcite |
Locality: | Trepča Complex, Trepča Valley, Kosovska Mitrovica, Kosovska Mitrovica District, Kosovo |  |
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Dimensions: | 8.5 cm |
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This specimen contains pyrrhotite, pyrite, chalcopyrite, sphalerite, boulangerite, quartz and calcite (I can't find any galena or dolomite but they are probably there.) |
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Posted: Apr 28, 2018 06:56 Post subject: Sociable Sulfides |
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Hi Bob,
This topic was already discussed in this thread: Maximum number of minerals on a specimen so I've merged both threads.
Thanks for proposing it again!
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bob kerr

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Posted: Apr 28, 2018 08:26 Post subject: Re: Maximum number of minerals on a specimen |
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Thanks Jordi - I didn't recall this thread - definitely makes sense to combine them.
I should have added something to the effect that the various species on a specimen should be visible - but no big deal. it is an interesting topic.
thanks again,
kerr, bob kerr
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Posted: Apr 28, 2018 13:36 Post subject: Re: Maximum number of minerals on a specimen |
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'Visible' is a good criteria, as the most I can think of are about 5000 (so far) - with a photo of the whole planet ;-)
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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 14:02 Post subject: Re: Maximum number of minerals on a specimen |
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Bob, I like the idea of 'sociable sulphides' I scrolled down your first three images and came to the fourth, without looking at the description first, and thought "That looks like Trepĉa!". Did you collect them yourself? Mine came from when I had a student placement at the mine in the summer of 1959. After retiring I wrote an article about them (not in an academic journal) and during its preparation was in touch with Prof Hyseni. Do you know about the book "Trepça Minerals Atlas" by Prof Bedri Durmishaj, Prof Sylejman Hyseni and Mr Ferat Shala, publ Mitrovicë, 2011
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Posted: Apr 29, 2018 19:38 Post subject: Re: Maximum number of minerals on a specimen |
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Peter - I have not seen this book but it looks like a must have - I assume there is an English version??
self collected?? I wish. would love to see what you have - please post.
For the past two Tucson shows a young guy from Kosovo, Enis Hajdini (hajdinienis at gmail dot com), has been in a room at the Riverpark Inn (Pueblo Gem and Mineral Show). he has had a wonderful selection of Trepca specimens at quite reasonable prices - and even more reasonable towards the end of the show.
it is definitely worth visiting his room. here's another specimen I got from him - resembling a bird's nest.
bob
Mineral: | Sphalerite, Pyrite, Pyrrhotite, Chalcopyrite, Boulangerite, Calcite, Quartz and Dolomite |
Locality: | Trepča Complex, Trepča Valley, Kosovska Mitrovica, Kosovska Mitrovica District, Kosovo |  |
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Dimensions: | 9.5 cm |
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this "bird nest" specimen contains sphalerite, pyrite, pyrrhotite, chalcopyrite, boulangerite, calcite, quartz and dolomite. this specimen was $40 |
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Peter Lemkin
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Posted: Apr 30, 2018 01:00 Post subject: Re: Maximum number of minerals on a specimen |
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Peter Perkins wrote: | Bob, I like the idea of 'sociable sulphides' I scrolled down your first three images and came to the fourth, without looking at the description first, and thought "That looks like Trepĉa!". Did you collect them yourself? Mine came from when I had a student placement at the mine in the summer of 1959. After retiring I wrote an article about them (not in an academic journal) and during its preparation was in touch with Prof Hyseni. Do you know about the book "Trepça Minerals Atlas" by Prof Bedri Durmishaj, Prof Sylejman Hyseni and Mr Ferat Shala, publ Mitrovicë, 2011 |
Where does one get this book? Putting it into a search engine, I didn't see anyone selling it.
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