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vic rzonca

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Posted: Dec 17, 2011 13:10 Post subject: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone |
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Collecting quartz on the eastern edge of the Little Falls dolostone, in December.
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30 ton ram setup, helps to loosen things up a bit. |
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The pump section. The shims are aluminum as it deforms into the rock rather than slipping. We have 60 and 100 ton models-great help. |
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Quartz Fonda, NY., USA Largest crystal, 2 cm. |
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Anthraxsolite Fonda, NY., USA 1 cm. |
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vic rzonca

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Posted: Jul 29, 2012 11:58 Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone |
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Quartz hunting.
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Use of the hydraulic ram to exploit weaknesses in the dolostone. |
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Quartz Fonda, New York, USA Some of what was levered out. Fingers for scale. |
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Quartz Fonda, New York, USA Some of what was levered out. Fingers for scale. |
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Pierre Joubert
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Posted: Jul 29, 2012 16:09 Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone |
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I love your entry! Love quartz. What an excellent way to break rock.
_________________ Pierre Joubert
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gemlover

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Posted: Jul 29, 2012 16:13 Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone |
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And to think about 40 years ago, those rams were the state of the art in vehicle crash rescue, now that is a much better use. Love the crystals.
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vic rzonca

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Posted: Aug 01, 2012 20:09 Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone |
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Pockets in the dolostone yield quartz.
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One of the work areas. The larger pocket zone is low on the face, but many smaller, 10 cm. holes are above. The floor of the bench is the bottom of the formation and is barren. |
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Pocket in a just released block. |
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Close-up of the 20 cm. vug. In situ, the large quartz grew from the roof of the pocket, the block rests on it's side. |
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6 cm. or larger, smoky crystal, still in the wall, growing from the roof. |
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Another cluster in the same area. This one is milky. |
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Quite a nice smoky, lose and lurking. 6 cm. |
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John S. White
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Posted: Aug 01, 2012 20:18 Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone |
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Fantastic Vic, can't wait to see the piece with the large crystal in the vug once the reduction in size has occurred. Please let us know how you accomplish the reduction.
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Pierre Joubert
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Posted: Aug 02, 2012 03:09 Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone |
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John S. White wrote: | Fantastic Vic, can't wait to see the piece with the large crystal in the vug once the reduction in size has occurred. Please let us know how you accomplish the reduction. |
Yes Vic, I am very curious to know how you intend to reduce those rocks to display, what I am sure will be very nice pieces. Could you send us some photos of the process once completed?
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vic rzonca

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Posted: Aug 02, 2012 08:09 Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone |
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You have both nailed it. Now what. First thing to do is nothing. Sometimes the act of releasing the blocks from their place of formation allows the dolomite to take a breath and cracks are either induced or enlarged, kind of self trimming to a point. Then diamond chain saws, careful chisel surgery or hydraulic trimming. Pesto!! It breaks right through the best part. Sometimes.
Mineral prep and presentation is an art and all respect to those who do it well. I've got piles of failed attempts.
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Posted: Aug 02, 2012 10:38 Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone |
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Right on, Vic; best results seem to be to sit back and check the specimens visually for a while, before deciding on a point of attack for such quartz pockets.
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Posted: Aug 02, 2012 15:11 Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone |
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Great report, Vic!
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vic rzonca

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Posted: Aug 03, 2012 10:32 Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone |
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A very useful tool for the field collector. The threaded adjustment allows for great flexibility, 0 to 18 cm. between anvils. Chinese made and rather stout, just turning the hand wheel sometimes is all that is needed for a trim, and the force of the hydraulics has scared me. I got this one from Dennis Beals and it has served me well.
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The trimmer frame is about 40 cm. high by 35 cm. wide. |
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A fruitful trim (or lucky). The quartz is about 6 cm. high. |
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vic rzonca

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Posted: Aug 26, 2012 08:47 Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone |
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More from the mine.
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The crystals went that way. |
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15 cm. quartz on dolostone, freshly mined with a quick cleaning. |
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12 cm. quartz with a smaller friend, rests on an eatched calcite crystal and quartz druze. |
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John S. White
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Posted: Aug 26, 2012 09:05 Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone |
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Those quartzes exhibit a really strange habit Vic. What a neat find.
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vic rzonca

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Posted: Sep 04, 2012 17:53 Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone |
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For a while now, off and on, we've found some rather odd floater quartz crystals at the site. This one qualifies as the oddest. After showing it to John White, I thought I'd have a good image taken to share with the forum. These fine shot's were taken by Jeff Scovil, at the East Coast show, far better than anything I could take, and much more informative than trying to explain an inferior photo. I would be interested in what you folks think might be the process that produced this form. Much of the quartz we find is associated with anthraxolite, a compact hydrocarbon that was present with the silicified fluids that grew the quartz. Many of the crystals found are the classic Herkimer form, no point of attachment, but this one is really something else. It would be interesting to know if anyone has ever seen another crystal of any species with a similar form. We have found a few of these. This, the best so far. I look forward to your input, and thanks for viewing.
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Quartz Fonda, New York, USA 2 cm. |
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Quartz Fonda, New York, USA 2 cm. |
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Quartz Fonda, New York, USA 2 cm. |
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Pierre Joubert
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Posted: Sep 05, 2012 00:45 Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone |
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vic rzonca wrote: | For a while now, off and on, we've found some rather odd floater quartz crystals at the site. This one qualifies as the oddest. After showing it to John White, I thought I'd have a good image taken to share with the forum. These fine shot's were taken by Jeff Scovil, at the East Coast show, far better than anything I could take, and much more informative than trying to explain an inferior photo. I would be interested in what you folks think might be the process that produced this form. Much of the quartz we find is associated with anthraxolite, a compact hydrocarbon that was present with the silicified fluids that grew the quartz. Many of the crystals found are the classic Herkimer form, no point of attachment, but this one is really something else. It would be interesting to know if anyone has ever seen another crystal of any species with a similar form. We have found a few of these. This, the best so far. I look forward to your input, and thanks for viewing. |
Most unusual! I have never seen anything like that before.
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