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PostPosted: Sep 23, 2013 10:24    Post subject: Re: Collection of Michael Shaw  

Hello Pierre,

Yes, the terminations are pretty unusual for schorl. I have an elbaite from Brazil that has similar steep pyramidal terminations, but I'm pretty certain that these are schorl. They are completely opaque black, even at their thinnest point. The dealer told me he acquired these on his last trip there and that he had not seen similar specimens previously. I would love to know what conditions caused these unusual terminations.

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PostPosted: Sep 23, 2013 10:48    Post subject: Re: Collection of Michael Shaw  

crosstimber wrote:
...I would love to know what conditions caused these unusual terminations.

Recommended reading: Unusual Schorl
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PostPosted: Sep 23, 2013 10:49    Post subject: Re: Collection of Michael Shaw  

Michael,
It is difficult to determine. The material deposition is kinetically controlled, fast or slow. The temperature, the concentration of ions at the local level, the presence of foreign ligands in competition, etc. are factors that control crystallization.
A simple example, look at the difference or a equant or skeletal quartz crystal.
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PostPosted: Sep 23, 2013 10:53    Post subject: Re: Collection of Michael Shaw  

I was fortunate to have acquired this pair about 12 years ago. The locality given was Laila Base Camp, Dazu, Skardu, Pakistan. Jeff Scovil photo.


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PostPosted: Sep 23, 2013 12:55    Post subject: Re: Collection of Michael Shaw  

I think John's description 'pencil habit' is very apt. Surely this is a seperate variety, something like foitite? Congratulations with your fine specimen Michael.
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PostPosted: Sep 23, 2013 16:53    Post subject: Re: Collection of Michael Shaw  

Thank you all for the input. Clearly these "pencil habit" schorls have been around much longer than I had thought. I had never seen them before, so I assumed they were something new. As to the exact locality, the specimens belonging to Carles and John both mentioned Laila Peak, so these are no doubt from the same general vicinity, perhaps from the same prospect.

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PostPosted: Sep 25, 2013 09:28    Post subject: Re: Collection of Michael Shaw  

Continuing with minerals from Pakistan.


654 Elbaite.jpg
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Elbaite-Schorl series
Doko, Basha Valley, Skardu District, Gilgit-Baltistan, Pakistan
3.0 x 3.6 cm.
Dark green elbaite crystals with modified pinacoid terminations associated with colorless bladed albite and books of pale yellow muscovite.
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1541 Microcline.jpg
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Raikot, Chilas Diamer District, Gilgit-Baltistan, Pakistan
3.6 x 8.0 cm.
Porcelain white Baveno-twinned microcline crystal with numerous smaller crystals along one prism face.
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2022 Ferberite.jpg
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Ferberite
Shigar Valley, Skardu District, Gilgit-Baltistan, Pakistan
3.5 x 7.1 cm.
Semi-lustrous black ferberite crystals to 2.5 cm forming am intergrown cluster with quartz.
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2034 Anatase.jpg
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Ras Koh Mountains, Kharan District, Balochistan, Pakistan
3.5 x 4.0 cm.
Sharp anatase crystals on a matrix of albite and quartz.
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PostPosted: Sep 28, 2013 07:32    Post subject: Re: Collection of Michael Shaw  

Continuing with minerals from Pakistan.


1538 Axinite (2).jpg
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Khapalu, Ghanche District, Gilgit-Baltistan, Pakistan
7.1 x 8.8 cm.
A triangular plate of feldspar hosting sharp gemmy brown axinite crystals with small crystals of adularia.
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1587 Zircon.jpg
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Bulbin, Astor District, Gilgit-Baltistan, Pakistan
3.0 x 4.0 cm
Dark brown prismatic zircon exhibiting reddish highlights in strong transmitted light.
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1587 Zircon.jpg



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Chumar Bakhoor, Hunza Valley, Gilgit-Baltistan, Pakistan
3.0 x 3.5 and 3.1 x 3.7 cm.
Transparent octahedral fluorite crystals with a pale green cores and pale pink edges.
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1584 Quartz faden.jpg
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Tole, South Waziristan, FATA, Pakistan
5.1 x 7.0 cm
Glassy, transparent, tabular quartz crystals in parallel growth with a prominent milky faden line visible roughly perpendicular to the c-axis.
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PostPosted: Sep 28, 2013 10:10    Post subject: Re: Collection of Michael Shaw  

Wonderful elbaite ( https://www.mineral-forum.com/message-board/files/654_elbaite_181.jpg ), Michael!
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PostPosted: Sep 28, 2013 10:55    Post subject: Re: Collection of Michael Shaw  

Hi Michael,
Always pleasant to contemplate. Congratulations.
How can we say that tourmaline "Elbaite-jpg 654" is an elbaite? It seems to contain iron.
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PostPosted: Sep 28, 2013 11:39    Post subject: Re: Collection of Michael Shaw  

Roger Warin wrote:
Hi Michael,
Always pleasant to contemplate. Congratulations.
How can we say that tourmaline "Elbaite-jpg 654" is an elbaite? It seems to contain iron.
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Thanks Tobi.

Roger,
There may well be some Fe in this piece. Just doing some more reading, and according to Mindat, there seems to be an elbaite-schorl series (Bosi, F., Andreozzi, G. B., Federico, M., Graziani, G. & Lucchesi, S. (2005): Crystal chemistry of the elbaite-schorl series. Am. Mineral. 90, 1784-1792.). I don't have a copy of this paper available, but perhaps these dark crystals are intermediate in the series. I wish I could take a good photo of this piece with the crystals backlit. They are definitely green, but too dark to see when lit from the front.
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PostPosted: Sep 28, 2013 12:29    Post subject: Re: Collection of Michael Shaw  

Many thanks Michael.
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PostPosted: Sep 28, 2013 13:47    Post subject: Re: Collection of Michael Shaw  

crosstimber wrote:
...There may well be some Fe in this piece. Just doing some more reading, and according to Mindat, there seems to be an elbaite-schorl series...

Fixed in https://www.mineral-forum.com/message-board/viewtopic.php?p=34360#34360
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PostPosted: Sep 30, 2013 10:43    Post subject: Re: Collection of Michael Shaw  

With today's post, I will finish showing our collection of specimens from Pakistan. Next up will be a country with a seemingly inexhaustible supply of minerals - China.


937 Topaz.jpg
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Mango, Shigar Valley, Gilgit-Baltistan, Pakistan
2.1 x 3.4 cm.
A gemmy loose crystal of sherry-colored topaz.
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937 Topaz.jpg



2100 Apatite-CaF.jpg
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Fluorapatite
Haramosh Mts., Skardu District, Gilgit-Baltistan, Pakistan
3.5 x 4.5 cm.
Glassy pink translucent crystal of fluorapatite associated with minor muscovite.
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2100 Apatite-CaF.jpg



2099 Forsterite.jpg
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Forsterite
Sapat Gali, Naran-Kaghan, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan
3.5 x 4.6 cm.
A group of partly gemmy green peridot crystals.
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PostPosted: Oct 03, 2013 15:33    Post subject: Re: Collection of Michael Shaw  

While I am gathering photos and info for the next installment which will feature China, I decided to show this little aquamarine which I recently acquired at the Denver Show. I have never been very successful in being able to photograph gem crystals, showing their transparency, so I spent some time experimenting with some different lighting arrangements until I came up with the image below. I'm pretty happy with the result, and I think I learned quite a bit about the best way to light these kinds of specimens.

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2129 Beryl var. aquamarine.jpg
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Beryl var. aquamarine
Doi Ty Mine, Thuong Xuan District, Thanh Hoa Prov., Vietnam
1.5 x 3.5 cm
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