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PostPosted: Jan 11, 2017 10:39    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

What has become of the beautiful "Rose of Itatiaia"? (with cleavelandite).


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 Mineral: Elbaite
 Locality:
Itatiaia, Conselheiro Pena, Vale do Rio Doce, Minas Gerais, Brazil
 Dimensions: 25 cm ?
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with cleavelanditeMunich EXPO 2003.
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PostPosted: Jan 14, 2017 12:40    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

Roger Warin wrote:
What has become of the beautiful "Rose of Itatiaia"?
Elbaite
Itatiaia, Conselheiro Pena, Vale do Rio Doce, Minas Gerais, Brazil
Dimensions: 25 cm ?
It was once was in Keith Proctor's collection and he sold it to Sheikh Saud al Thani from Qatar who died some years ago. I don't know for sure, but I think it is in a museum in Qatar since Saud al Thani passed away ...

By the way: I don't think this specimen is "only" about 25 cm, rather 40 ;-)
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PostPosted: Jan 14, 2017 13:54    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

More info in the always so useful Biographical Archive of the Mineralogical Record
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PostPosted: Jan 14, 2017 14:04    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

In https://www.mineral-forum.com/message-board/viewtopic.php?p=54984#54984 Pete Richards wrote:
...Finally, some neat elbaites from the Havey Quarry in Maine. Not large, but self-collected several years ago. The caps may be foitite, analyses pending.

Pete, those Havey finds are now my favorites. Thanks for the images.
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PostPosted: Jan 14, 2017 14:59    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

My favorite from Mexico. We do not see a lot of these older elbaite from Baja California. This one was acquired from Dave Bunk in September 2014 with other labels from collector Gene Laberge #519, November 1989 and dealers Mark and Jeannette Rogers.


0904 - Tourmaline Elbaite Delicias Ensenada Baja California Norte.jpg
 Mineral: Elbaite
 Locality:
Delicias Mine, Rancho Los Pocitos, Municipio Ensenada, Baja California, Mexico
 Dimensions: 4.5 x 1.2 x 1 cm
 Description:
Photo credit is likely Jesse La Plante
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PostPosted: Oct 20, 2020 14:53    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

Elbaite from Morocco is relatively rare. In 2017 i acquired this crystal group from a Moroccan dealer who told me about the locality. I was skeptical - during this time the few specimens on the market were labeled only as "Ouarzazate Region" To my surprise I found the same locality in Jordi's new update. Anyway - I love it very much!


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 Mineral: Elbaite
 Locality:
Beni Bouzra (Bni Bouzra), Chefchaouen Province, Tanger-Tetouan-Al Hoceima Region, Morocco
 Dimensions: 22 x 15 mm
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 Viewed:  11328 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Oct 20, 2020 20:48    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

Although it is not museum quality as many here are, this is very special to me because my son and I collected it in Riverside County, CA when he was 14. This is a 2.2 lb bi-color. Although dark, the color banding continues up into deep reds and greens. The entire top 2" are deep green. There were 6 lbs of rubellite, verdelite and assorted tourmalines, and over 20 lbs of smoky quartz in the pocket. A great first gem find for us both. Six years later, this is still a passion we share. Blessed to have a common obsession with my son.


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 Mineral: Tourmaline (Group)
 Locality:
Riverside County, California, USA
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Bi-Color Tourmaline
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PostPosted: Jul 06, 2021 10:13    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

In the mid 1980s, when I was first getting serious about mineral collecting, specimens from the pegmatites of Northern Pakistan, and to a lesser degree the neighboring provinces of Afghanistan were beginning to show up in the mineral marketplace here in Northern California. I am sure this was due to the fact that there was a large community of expat Afghanis who had fled the country after the Soviet invasion only a few years prior.

One of the things I remember was seeing tables covered with elbaite and cleavelandite specimens such as this one. Most were in serious need of cleaning, which was rather time-consuming as one usually needed to remove clay/cookieite coatings without damaging the underlying tourmalines and feldspars. This was a learning process and wasn't always successful. At least the specimens were inexpensive at that time!

I've always had a fondness for the location, and recently found this one from the Rock Currier collection. A very good example of the hemimorphism of the tourmaline group.



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 Mineral: Elbaite and Albite
 Locality:
Stak Nala, Haramosh Mountains, Skardu District, Gilgit-Baltistan (Northern Areas), Pakistan
 Dimensions: 6x3x3 cm
 Description:
Bicolor hemimorphic elbaite partially enclosed in cleavelandite
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PostPosted: Jul 06, 2021 11:11    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

I realize that it’s ‘just’ Schorl but it’s self collected and some of most northern picket Schorl from California that I know of. Pulled from our mine in El Dorado County.

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Size information corrected to 14 cm (Tobi)



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 Mineral: Schorl
 Locality:
El Dorado County, California, USA
 Dimensions: 14 cm
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PostPosted: Jul 06, 2021 13:44    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

nice pencil !
congratulations for this self collected specimen

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PostPosted: Jul 06, 2021 14:44    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

Tourmaline group, albite

I own about thirty tourmalines but am not sure which is my favorite. Maybe this one, I think it has something special. Hope you'll like it.

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 Mineral: Tourmaline group, albite
 Locality:
Stak Nala, Haramosh Mountains, Skardu District, Gilgit-Baltistan (Northern Areas), Pakistan
 Dimensions: 102 mm x 71 mm
 Description:
 Viewed:  9415 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Tourmaline group, albite
 Locality:
Stak Nala, Haramosh Mountains, Skardu District, Gilgit-Baltistan (Northern Areas), Pakistan
 Dimensions: 102 mm x 71 mm
 Description:
 Viewed:  9400 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Tourmaline group, albite
 Locality:
Stak Nala, Haramosh Mountains, Skardu District, Gilgit-Baltistan (Northern Areas), Pakistan
 Dimensions: 102 mm x 71 mm
 Description:
 Viewed:  9391 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Tourmaline group, albite
 Locality:
Stak Nala, Haramosh Mountains, Skardu District, Gilgit-Baltistan (Northern Areas), Pakistan
 Dimensions: 102 mm x 71 mm
 Description:
 Viewed:  9405 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Jul 07, 2021 04:45    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

Really nice contributions to this topic!

Gerhard, I also like the new finds from Morocco, they have such a great colour! I don't own one, I hope one day to find a nice one, congratulations on that beauty :-)

Catahoula, no matter if this may not be the usual "museum quality" - it is an amazing find and I really envy you for digging such a treasure with your son! Germany is a country with a lot of great minerals, but large bi-colour tourmalines are not among them ;-)

Eck, also a wonderful find, congratulations! You wrote 14mm for the size, I guess you meant 14 cm and I corrected it (but maybe 14 mm was correct and you just have very tiny hands) ;-)

Jesse & Carles, awesome Stak Nala pieces, so beautiful! And Carles, I think I know most of your tourmalines and this one is worth being a favourite. You're right, it has something special. There are many elbaite specimens from Stak Nala on the market, but I haven't seen one with so many perfect crystals - this is an outstanding beauty!

... And finally my new favourite tourmaline from my own collection, it's the latest addition and I simply love this bi-bolour crystal from Brazil:



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 Mineral: Elbaite
 Locality:
Barra de Salinas, Coronel Murta, Vale do Jequitinhonha, Minas Gerais, Brazil
 Dimensions: Crystal height 4 cm
 Description:
Photo © Anton Watzl Minerals
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PostPosted: Jul 07, 2021 05:20    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

Hi Tobi

Many thanks for your comments.

Your new tourmaline is not only nice because of the color combination, the green being like that of an emerald, it also shows a perfect termination with primary and secondary faces that give the specimen a special look.

Congratulations!
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PostPosted: Aug 31, 2021 04:07    Post subject: Re: Favourite Tourmalines?  

Unfortunately the next one is not part of my personal collection ;-)
This incredible thing was on display some years ago in the Marburg Museum:



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 Mineral: Elbaite
 Locality:
Jos Plateau, Ropp District, Plateau State, Nigeria
 Dimensions: Height 20-25 cm
 Description:
The strong light from the backside demonstrated the surreal colour zones of this enormous tourmaline crystal
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