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Stefan Koch
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 Posted: Feb 20, 2018 04:42 Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2018 |
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Hi there,
The "Tobi" shown in the picture is Tobias Weise, the son of Christian Weise, publisher of the german mineral magazine "Lapis".
Cheers,
Stefan
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Jordi Fabre
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| Posted: Feb 20, 2018 06:28 Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2018 - Some thoughts |
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| In http://www.mineral-forum.com/message-board/viewtopic.php?p=60599#60599 Bob Harman wrote: | Hi Jordi!
Interesting observations ( http://www.mineral-forum.com/message-board/viewtopic.php?p=60598#60598 ), but not totally unexpected. Wherever there is a large and major mineral or fossil show, over time, there might be many additional small shows springing up.
Are the newer small shows having "dealers" selling all or part of their own (or a friend's) collection? Are the "dealers" buying stuff one day only to flip it at a higher price the next day (phenomenon that has gone on in some long standing venues for years)? Or are these "dealers" simply new ones and additional ones to the longer attending dealers that have populated the established Tucson Show venues for years? Or might they be newer younger dealers just starting out and trying to save a few dealership bucks until they get established?
Like you, I feel this trend certainly makes for an excessively long and widely spread out show. Do you think it negatively impacts all the other long standing venues?
Anyway, all interesting food for thoughts and discussions. BOB |
To summarize:
- What I saw were the same classic dealers exhibiting in many more venues than in previous years.
- I did not see the young people who should renovate this hobby exhibit in these new places. In fact some young people who appeared last year at Tucson's New Mineral Show and who brought very interesting pieces, this year were no longer there and I saw them working for other dealers...
- I do not know if these new venues are going to impact or not the classic Shows. In fact my general state is of confusion because this year has been different from what I knew and I am still trying to process those changes.
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dontgogreen
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| Posted: Feb 20, 2018 12:32 Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2018 |
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| If anyone has high-resolution photographs or links to them of the MAD case or Ralph Clark's display, would you please share them with us?
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Gail
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| Posted: Feb 20, 2018 12:51 Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2018 - worst pun ever (sorry!) ;-) |
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| Tobi wrote: | | Gail wrote: | | It was a joy to see you and am always happy when you come to Tucson. Jim and I loved putting that case in. |
| Tobi wrote: | | Gail, I fear you must have mistaken me for someone else: I wasn't in Tucson, actually I never was :-( But I found a photo of guy named Tobi in your show report, but this is another Tobi, not me ;-) |
| Gail wrote: | | Oh my. I apologize for the confusion! Now that I have a better understanding of which Tobi is which I shall be sure to distinguish! |
No problem, Gail ... even Shakespeare said "Tobi or not Tobi, that is the question" ... (I'm so sorry for that pun, just couldn't resist!)
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Okay, THAT was funny!
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| Posted: Feb 20, 2018 14:19 Post subject: Tucson Show 2018 - Miscellany (1) |
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A series of eye candy images taken by Jordi Deusedes and me at the Westward Look.
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Jordi Fabre
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| Posted: Feb 20, 2018 14:19 Post subject: Tucson Show 2018 - The New Discoveries! (2) |
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| On Tucson Show 2018 - The New Discoveries! Jordi Fabre wrote: | | Congo D.R.: New finding of exceptional Carrollites at the Kamoya South II Mine. It is difficult to say if they are better or not than those of the famous findings of 2001-2002 but in any case they are extraordinary. |
I`m adding images of one of the new Barytes of the vein volcán of the San Diego Mine and one of the new Carrollites of the Kamoya South II Mine.
| Mineral: | Baryte |
| Locality: | | San Diego Mine, vein volcán, Santa Bárbara, Municipio Santa Bárbara, Chihuahua, Mexico | |
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| Mineral: | Carrollite on Mica matrix |
| Locality: | | Kamoya South II Mine, Kamoya, Kambove District, Katanga Copper Crescent, Katanga (Shaba), Congo DR (Zaire) | |
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Gail
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| Posted: Feb 24, 2018 12:56 Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2018 |
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| dontgogreen wrote: | | If anyone has high-resolution photographs or links to them of the MAD case or Ralph Clark's display, would you please share them with us? |
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| I have a few shots, if you want High Resolution, please PM me and I will share my email address. |
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Turbo
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| Posted: Feb 24, 2018 13:36 Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2018 |
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I have a lot of pictures of the shows. Enjoy!
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| The MAD case. I also have a video of the case if anyone wants a closer look. |
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| An awesome collection of Pyrite. A great mineral to showcase form! |
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| I saw some fantastic Michigan calcites. This was one of my favorites. |
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| The poster child. Outstanding! |
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Turbo
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| Posted: Feb 24, 2018 13:54 Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2018 |
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More pics from the Main Show.
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Jordi Fabre
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| Posted: Feb 24, 2018 13:55 Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2018 |
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| Turbo wrote: | | The MAD case. I also have a video of the case if anyone wants a closer look. |
Great photos Edward. If you download your video in YouTube then we can "encrust" here too...
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Turbo
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| Posted: Feb 24, 2018 14:04 Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2018 |
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Main show favorites continued.
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| Locality: | | Buick Mine, Bixby, Viburnum Trend District, Iron County, Missouri, USA | |
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| Mineral: | beryl var. emerald |
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Jordi Fabre
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| Posted: Feb 24, 2018 15:06 Post subject: Tucson Show 2018 - Miscellany (2) |
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A series of eye candy images taken by Jordi Deusedes in the Main Show-Convention Center
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| Posted: Feb 24, 2018 15:26 Post subject: Tucson Show 2018 - Miscellany (3) |
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| Posted: Feb 24, 2018 15:43 Post subject: Tucson Show 2018 - Miscellany (4) |
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| Posted: Feb 24, 2018 15:47 Post subject: Tucson Show 2018 - Miscellany (5) |
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Peter
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| Posted: Feb 24, 2018 18:27 Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2018 |
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The Spann Brazilian Case of Tucson 2018
I have attended the Tucson Show for 30 years, Saint Marie aux Mines and Munich for some 35 and 33 years respectively, and mineral shows for 41 years. There are many many more senior collectors than me to have an opinion in this matter, but during my rather limited exposure to world class exhibits at shows, besides many visits to museums and great collectors, each numbering in the 3 digits, I must confess.
No matter what the theme, this case was perhaps the most beautiful and comprehensive theme case from one single collection ever to be put on display at any mineral show!
The quality and spectrum of minerals, all gathered in the past 15 years is nothing less than fantastic and most admirable.
Like Jordi, I know the Spanns well and they are dear friends. What a pleasure that such a sharing couple own these, and yes Gail, you are a true Ambassador in all ways for our pass and hobby.
Big THANK YOU for bringing this for all to see.
A photo of his case should be sold as poster in natural size!
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Turbo
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| Posted: Feb 25, 2018 19:10 Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2018 |
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Already missing Tucson! Do we have to wait a whole year?!
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| Locality: | | Gordonsville Mine, Carthage, Central Tennessee Ba-F-Pb-Zn District, Smith County, Tennessee, USA | |
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| This is the largest example from the 29S Gem Pocket I have ever seen! |
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| Locality: | | Gordonsville Mine, Carthage, Central Tennessee Ba-F-Pb-Zn District, Smith County, Tennessee, USA | |
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| Posted: Feb 28, 2018 11:42 Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2018 |
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Just a comment. I have noticed that by far the most common error on specimen labels is “tourmaline variety elbaite” or something very similar. This is often seen on dealer’s labels as well as collector’s labels. Tourmaline is NOT a variety of elbaite. Tourmaline is a family of mineral species. Elbaite is a species. It matters.
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Kevin Schofield
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| Posted: Feb 28, 2018 12:05 Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2018 |
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| John S. White wrote: | | Just a comment. I have noticed that by far the most common error on specimen labels is “tourmaline variety elbaite” or something very similar. This is often seen on dealer’s labels as well as collector’s labels. Tourmaline is NOT a. variety of elbaite. Tourmaline is a family of mineral species. Elbaite is a species. It matters. |
John,
I had always assumed seeing this sort of label that the intent was to indicate the Tourmaline was the encompassing grouping (family), and that Elbaite (or other colour variant) was the subordinate (variety).
Would a label of "Tourmaline species Elbaite" then be more appropriate?
As a carbonate collector, I am, of course, just an innocent bystander in this kerfuffle :-)
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| Posted: Feb 28, 2018 15:07 Post subject: Re: Tucson Show 2018 |
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Personally I would favor treating the label issue this way:
ELBAITE - TOURMALINE GROUP
Elbaite is not a color variety of tourmaline. It is a species. Color varieties are rubellite, indicolite. achroite, etc.
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