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Unknown mineral from Pikes Peak pegmatite
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PostPosted: Jun 13, 2021 22:02    Post subject: Re: Unknown mineral from Pikes Peak pegmatite  

How about Spodumene. I have a couple of pieces that have etching striations that run that way. There doesn't appear to be any from that area in the photos on Mindat. but maybe...
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PostPosted: Jun 13, 2021 22:10    Post subject: Re: Unknown mineral from Pikes Peak pegmatite  

Could it be Barylite? Barylite is monoclinic and is rare, but documented from the Crystal Peak area. Just a wild guess.
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PostPosted: Jun 13, 2021 22:13    Post subject: Re: Unknown mineral from Pikes Peak pegmatite  

Opps, make Barylite orthorhombic, my bad. Too many beers last night :)
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PostPosted: Jun 14, 2021 00:22    Post subject: Re: Unknown mineral from Pikes Peak pegmatite  

IF that is a phenakite, that is a 'whopper'!! I have collected extensively in the area mentioned, but don't remember seeing anything like that. Also never found phenakite that wan't tiny, tiny, tiny. I sense whatever it is, it may be very large and unusual find for that area, based on my digging there. Don't destroy it. Find someone with Ramen spectragraph or other non-destructive testing method.
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PostPosted: Jun 14, 2021 09:46    Post subject: Re: Unknown mineral from Pikes Peak pegmatite  

I thought of barylite too, but specimens shown on Mindat have a pretty consistent "look" to them, and none look like this crystal.
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PostPosted: Jun 14, 2021 09:55    Post subject: Re: Unknown mineral from Pikes Peak pegmatite  

I tried scratching a very flat rhombohedron face on a "Herkimer diamond", and the unknown mineral left some powder and a VERY faint scratch.
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PostPosted: Jun 15, 2021 00:11    Post subject: Re: Unknown mineral from Pikes Peak pegmatite  

Since you live not far from where you collected, as you probably know, there are a number of regional experts between where you live and Colo. Springs. If I were you, I'd show it to one or a few of them. One shop in Manatou Springs has some experts in the area, but there are others - some without shops. Just an idea. Perhaps some here can help, but most of us are not local. I used to be living in CO and collected at Devil's Head and that general area often. Never saw anything like you have, but in that P.P. Pegmatite every now and then one would find a very nicely formed XX of a mineral rarely found.....
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PostPosted: Jul 22, 2021 09:56    Post subject: Re: Unknown mineral from Pikes Peak pegmatite  

I was able to break this crystal into two fragments, preserving the termination. I sent the bottom half to John Attard, who completed an XRD analysis (attached), which indicates that it's quartz. Now the problem is how to explain the crystal habit and forms present. This was a completely unexpected result.
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PostPosted: Jul 23, 2021 09:03    Post subject: Re: Unknown mineral from Pikes Peak pegmatite  

Quartz does take this habit sometimes. I've heard the nickname of 'saber quartz' for that. Two opposing prism faces are very narrow or completely missing causing it to have a pseudo orthorhombic appearance, hence looking like danburite. It's an oddity and thus highly desirable to certain quartz fanatics. Good find.
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