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PostPosted: Nov 06, 2009 17:09    Post subject: Citrine: natural or heated?  

I have here a couple of 3-4 cm "citrines" that I got when I was a child. The darker one was from a science store for kids in my local mall. The lighter one is from the Smithsonian Museum gift shop. Both were purchased around 1993/1994.

The first one looks way too deep in color to be natural. The second one I'm not so sure of. Is a white matrix really a tell-tale sign that they've been enhanced? Is citrine rare enough that I should assume these are enhanced?



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Brazil citrine (other side).
 Viewed:  19865 Time(s)

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Brazil citrine. Note that the color is through the entire crystal points.
 Viewed:  19853 Time(s)

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From the Smithsonian gift shop. This one did not come with a label. The color is localized to the top of the points.
 Viewed:  19896 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Nov 06, 2009 17:18    Post subject: Re: Citrine: natural or heated?  

Good evening, Turbo

All are heated amethysts.

Natural citrines are paler and in general have other shapes. And over all, are rares.

With best wishes, and sorry for bad news...

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PostPosted: Nov 06, 2009 17:56    Post subject: Re: Citrine: natural or heated?  

lluis wrote:
Good evening, Turbo

All are heated amethysts.

Natural citrines are paler and in general have other shapes. And over all, are rares.

With best wishes, and sorry for bad news...

Lluís


Lluís,

Thanks. I suspected this, but just wanted confirmation. So, the citrine cathedrals and vugs from South America are also heated amethysts?
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PostPosted: Nov 06, 2009 18:42    Post subject: Re: Citrine: natural or heated?  

I'm afraid all of them are heated. It's the way they have to sell poor-quality amethyst pieces. Pay attention to colour -as Lluis has pointed- and the geode shape. The topic has been widely explained on the spanish message board.

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PostPosted: Nov 07, 2009 03:54    Post subject: Re: Citrine: natural or heated?  

Hello Turbo,

I agree too. Natural citrine is more pale yellow. If your specimens looked like this one I would guess it is citrine : https://www.mindat.org/photo-239089.html

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PostPosted: Nov 07, 2009 09:31    Post subject: Re: Citrine: natural or heated?  

chris wrote:
Hello Turbo,

I agree too. Natural citrine is more pale yellow. If your specimens looked like this one I would guess it is citrine : www(dot)mindat(dot)org/photo-239089(dot)html

Christophe


Wow, they are much paler. Thanks, Chris.
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