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Mathias
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Posted: Feb 25, 2023 07:04 Post subject: Amethyst |
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Hi all,
I've purchased 2 Amethyst specimen recently. They have strange crystallization unusual in fact. The vendor said he purchased a box of these amethysts and due to bad packing, most were damaged. He said they are found in Jefferson County, Colorado.
Does anyone know a more exact location?
Thanks,
Mathias
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ALshawani
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Posted: Feb 25, 2023 08:28 Post subject: Re: Amethyst |
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Nice Amethyst specimen
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John Hodgson
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Posted: Feb 25, 2023 08:39 Post subject: Re: Amethyst |
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It looks similar to various specimens I have had from Thunder Bay Ontario.
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Amir Akhavan
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Posted: Feb 25, 2023 11:31 Post subject: Re: Amethyst |
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This looks odd.
What does it look from the side and below?
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James Catmur
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Posted: Feb 25, 2023 12:07 Post subject: Re: Amethyst |
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I see Fluorite cubes. Could you test the hardness?
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Mathias
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Posted: Feb 25, 2023 12:18 Post subject: Re: Amethyst |
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James Catmur wrote: | I see Fluorite cubes. Could you test the hardness? |
Hi indeed it looks like cubes, but they aren't cubes.
It is without doubt amethyst.
There are a few small damages on some crystals and they are typical type of quartz spalled off shards.
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Amir Akhavan
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Posted: Feb 25, 2023 12:23 Post subject: Re: Amethyst |
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Without doubt amethyst, yes, but I wonder if they have been assembled or not.
The crystals are probably from Brejinho das Ametistas in Bahia, Brazil, the "corroded prism and lower edges of the rhombohedral faces are typical. But usually these tips are made of subparallel groups radiating from a common point, here they are chaotically intergrown.
So again: post a photo from the side and the bottom.
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Philippe Durand
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Posted: Feb 25, 2023 13:16 Post subject: Re: Amethyst |
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definitively, I see fluorite cubic crystals: no doubt ! one with octahedral faces
if other crystals are amethyst, I guess , that it is a man made specimen
but my opinion it that is all fluorite, with some heavily corroded crystals
hardness test will kill the question.
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Linus

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Posted: Feb 25, 2023 13:20 Post subject: Re: Amethyst |
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James Catmur wrote: | I see Fluorite cubes. Could you test the hardness? |
I agree it looks like fluorite, I see a lot of 90 degree angles and almost no conchoidal fractures. A hardness test would be very useful - does glass scratch it?
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Mathias
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Posted: Feb 25, 2023 13:40 Post subject: Re: Amethyst |
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Hi here are some photos from the other specimen (I bought 2).
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Jordi Fabre
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Posted: Feb 25, 2023 13:47 Post subject: Re: Amethyst |
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Quartz (variety amethyst) as Amir well said. I had some others from Brazil as Amir also said, and even some from Bolivia.
It looks a lot like Fluorite in the images but is not.
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Amir Akhavan
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Posted: Feb 25, 2023 13:49 Post subject: Re: Amethyst |
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Sideways and from the back, please. So far it looks natural and not assembled, as I first thought.
A hardness test is not necessary, but it doesn't hurt, of course,
This cannot be fluorite, because the face development violates its symmetry. You see the tips of quartz crystals with very large r and very small z faces.
The z faces are at every other corner, which is not ok for fluorite, and at the corner they should also appear on all three sides, not just one. For example, the symmetry of fluorite would require the z face to be also visible at the tips (and again three of them), which they don't do.
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Amir Akhavan
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Posted: Feb 25, 2023 13:51 Post subject: Re: Amethyst |
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I agree with Jordi, could also be from Bolivia.
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Linus

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Posted: Feb 25, 2023 14:08 Post subject: Re: Amethyst |
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Amir, I visited your quartz website, very nicely done! It really helps to clarify this situation.
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Joseph DOliveira

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Posted: Feb 25, 2023 18:28 Post subject: Re: Amethyst |
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There is a specimen from the Creede Mining District, Colorado posted in mindat that has a similar appearance, unfortunately the picture is not a good quality one. Here is the link:
https://www.mindat.org/photo-376582.html
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