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Byron Anderson

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Posted: Jan 31, 2013 22:38 Post subject: Japanese Minerals |
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Hello fellow FMF's. I hope I'm not misusing this fourm with this question as the FMF theme's trend more toward the academic (which I love), while my question is more economic. However, I thought this question my generate some fun discussion (and help me out) so here it goes. I have been collecting for about 25 years and recently acquired the remains of a mineral and lapidary shop inventory dating back to the late 1950's to mid 1960's. The collection is mostly lapidary and gemstones, but there are some minerals, including several basic/beginner collections glued behind a glass 18X12 inch frame. I didn't get too excited about these until I took a closer look at one of the frames and discovered they were all Japanese minerals - many with assigned mine locations (mostly Chichibu, Siatama Prefecture). I inquired to the person from which I purchased the collection about these and he informed me that the owners had collected (some self collected) these while in the military, shortly after WWII. Based on my experience Japanese minerals are relatively rare (I admit from a California-centric basiis) so here is my question.......Is the collection more valuable kept together, or parceled? I have several mineral friends that would like some of the specimens, but I'm hesitant to parcel out. This is my first post, so I'm hoping I can post several detail pictures to follow the overall picture. Keeping my fingers crossed...
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Japanese Collection Chichibu, Ashio, Kofu, Yamano-o |
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Posted: Jan 31, 2013 22:43 Post subject: Japanese Mineral Collection |
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Arsenopyrite and Sphalerite on Galena, Chichibu Mines, Siatama Prefecture, Honshu, Japan
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Arsenopyrite and Sphalerite on Galena Chichibu Mines, Siatama Prefecture, Honshu, Japan 2.5X2.5cm
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Posted: Jan 31, 2013 22:49 Post subject: Japanese Mineral Collection |
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Not sure I believe the label on this one....but providing what is on the label.
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Vesuvianite Chichibu Mines, Siatama Prefecture, Honshu, Japan 1.75X1.75cm
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Posted: Jan 31, 2013 22:58 Post subject: Japanese Mineral Collection |
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Another close up of the collection.
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Topaz Mino Prefecture, Japan 1.4X0.8cm
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GneissWare

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Posted: Jan 31, 2013 23:32 Post subject: Re: Japanese Minerals |
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Unless it is a well-known collector (and doesn't seem to be) there is no reason not to break up the collection.
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Posted: Jan 31, 2013 23:33 Post subject: Re: Japanese mineral collection |
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Byron Anderson wrote: | ...Is the collection more valuable kept together, or parceled?... |
Keep together.
Please in any case don't try to use FMF to sell this collection, this is a non commercial Forum as you can read in "A general guide for using the Forum with some rules and tips"
Thank you.
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Posted: Feb 01, 2013 00:10 Post subject: Re: Japanese Minerals |
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I think the correct name of the prefecture is Saitama (埼玉県, Saitama-ken), not Siatama
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Posted: Feb 01, 2013 00:22 Post subject: Re: Japanese Minerals |
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Thanks for the location correction! I'll make sure the correct spelling stays with the specimens if I decide to let them go (friends or donate to the local state college?)
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Posted: Feb 01, 2013 00:33 Post subject: Re: Japanese Minerals |
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YW! There is neither a prefecture called "Mino", but there is a town called Mino (美濃市, Mino-shi) in Gifu prefecture (岐阜県, Gifu-ken). Maybe that topaz is from there, I don't know...
Sorry, I'm very sensitive with Japanese locations :)
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Byron Anderson

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Posted: Feb 01, 2013 00:54 Post subject: Re: Japanese Minerals |
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No apology! This is exactly what I'm looking for. Great stuff! Keep it coming and thank you! I get the impression from the material in the inventory I purchased that these were not sophisticated collectors. They had some beautiful turquoise, lapis lazuli crystals, and fist size garnets with absolutely no location information. It kills me.
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Posted: Feb 01, 2013 01:13 Post subject: Re: Japanese Minerals |
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The quartz crystal from the Japanese collection. Location only given as Honshu. Is this a beta-quartz?
PS Sorry about the poor quality photos. I have a better camera and will try to provide higher quality photos in the future.
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Posted: Feb 01, 2013 01:23 Post subject: Re: Japanese Minerals |
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Don't doubt the vesuvianite; that's a typical one from there!
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Posted: Feb 01, 2013 01:31 Post subject: Re: Japanese Minerals |
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Byron Anderson wrote: | The quartz crystal from the Japanese collection. Location only given as Honshu. Is this a beta-quartz?
PS Sorry about the poor quality photos. I have a better camera and will try to provide higher quality photos in the future. |
I'm afraid Honshu is very big to be defined as a location... It's like saying "Midwest" instead of "Michigan" or "Iowa". If you would be able to find out the prefecture, that will be a beginning...
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Posted: Feb 01, 2013 02:23 Post subject: Re: Japanese Minerals |
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I would agree with some others; keep it together. I would redo all the labels though.
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Posted: Feb 01, 2013 11:30 Post subject: Re: Japanese Minerals |
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It's not a beta-quartz, it's what the Japanese call "sorobandama-ishi" = "abacus bead stone".
They are composed of chalcedony, formed by shrinkage of what was originally a blob of gel.
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