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barbie90
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Posted: Jul 21, 2011 06:41 Post subject: Unique or rare in the world? |
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Hello everybody ,one of my friend from turkey shared picture of the minerals that he found ,it took my interest because the colours of them are really attractive at first ı couldnt know what they were but later when ı take in acount of their shapes ı thought they were chalsedony or opal but he doesnt want to accept the idea ,he said his stones are so precious ,there are no stones in the world like them he thinks ,what do you think they are?
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crocoite

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Posted: Jul 21, 2011 06:49 Post subject: Re: unique or rare in the world? |
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Looks like coloured glass...
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alfredo
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Posted: Jul 21, 2011 07:47 Post subject: Re: unique or rare in the world? |
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I agree. Looks like glass.
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barbie90
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Posted: Jul 21, 2011 07:49 Post subject: Re: unique or rare in the world? |
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he even got angry to the idea that theyre chalsedony so ı musnt tell him they are glass:;)its so funny
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GneissWare

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Posted: Jul 21, 2011 11:31 Post subject: Re: Unique or rare in the world? |
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GLASS.
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trtlman

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Posted: Jul 21, 2011 11:40 Post subject: Re: Unique or rare in the world? |
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glass for sure looks like they might have been collected from a beach, beach glass is a common find, it's just broken glass pieces from bottles, floaters or other garbage that get tumbled into pebble shapes, also broken glass could be tumbled into pebbles flowing down a river or creek as well, but yeah I am going to agree with everyone else that these are in fact glass fragments.
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barbie90
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Posted: Jul 21, 2011 16:46 Post subject: Re: Unique or rare in the world? |
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ı really want to thank everyone who helps in this forum ,everyone is really helpful ,ı want to thank jordi fabre for making a beautiful and helpful forum,ıt makes me connected to the stones ı got knowledges ı love seeing people like me
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cuperson
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Posted: Sep 08, 2011 13:37 Post subject: Re: Unique or rare in the world? |
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obsidian maybe ?
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mihailovici79

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Posted: Sep 08, 2011 13:42 Post subject: Re: Unique or rare in the world? |
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look like an obsidian....
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Maxilos
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Posted: Sep 08, 2011 14:36 Post subject: Re: Unique or rare in the world? |
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Glass
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lluis
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Posted: Sep 08, 2011 16:05 Post subject: Re: Unique or rare in the world? |
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Yes, glass
And yes, obsidian is a natural glass.
But those chunks are man made glass.
Sorry
With best wishes
Lluís
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cuperson
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Posted: Sep 08, 2011 21:12 Post subject: Re: Unique or rare in the world? |
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How do you figure ?
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John S. White
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Posted: Sep 09, 2011 05:38 Post subject: Re: Unique or rare in the world? |
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Definitely man-made glass. The colors are typical of man-made glass, not of obsidian, and the transparency is also typical of man-made glass. Also, I believe I can see air bubbles in the glass which is a clincher.
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lluis
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Posted: Sep 09, 2011 11:50 Post subject: Re: Unique or rare in the world? |
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Hi, Cuperson, List
I will place in another way.
Find an obsidian chunck that is colorless, and I will think that maybe I am wrong.
All obsidian I have seen is black as sin, and not a chunk I have seen has bubbles.
Then, corolarium is that the nice colored chunks are manmade glass.
Besides, to be obsidian, they should be found near an old (or modern, if you like risks) volcano....
Myself, I have seen when young (yes, in the Jurasic....), a piece of a dark colored glass that should be manmade because in Barcelona city never has been a volcano.
Hope it serves
With best wishes
Lluís
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weaver
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Posted: Oct 27, 2011 12:29 Post subject: Re: Unique or rare in the world? |
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There's no crystal structure in those specimens either. I don't see anything geometric, with the exceptions of some of the fractures. Most of the fractures appear similar to the way glass breaks. Also, when there's no "larger" specimens (or specimen variety in size/length), I tend to question the origins.
Do you suppose obsidian is always black due to the [volcanic] heat under which it forms? Nerp... just looked it up, it's the mineral content: iron and magnesium. With minimal research it seems that transparent obsidian is in question, which means "colored, transparent" obsidian is probably also suspect.
As for your friend, just tell him he's got a collection of:
Amorphous (non-crystalline) solid material comprising of mostly silica (SiO2) plus Na2O, CaO
But don't mention it's glass ;)
Excellent note about the air bubbles.
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