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PostPosted: Apr 22, 2016 19:01    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

The black flies are out but the skeeters are not biting yet. Soon. We've named the claim "Turtle Clan Ridge" after the indigenous people that lived on the high ground around about us.


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65 cm. Garter snake. Harmless.
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Output from the Turtle Clan Ridge.
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PostPosted: Apr 24, 2016 17:12    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

Thanks Vic, it's nice to see your photo's of work in progress. Hope you hit some big pockets this season.
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PostPosted: Apr 25, 2016 04:54    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

Hi Vic, When I saw all those containers with specimens I thought, is this man a hoarder or a merchant. It would be interesting to see one or more of those containers contents. Best regards.
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PostPosted: Apr 25, 2016 06:29    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

Collector, Pierre. Repeat after me, " Collector.".


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PostPosted: Apr 25, 2016 07:19    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

vic rzonca wrote:
Collector, Pierre. Repeat after me, " Collector.".


Collector Vic, collector :-) :-) Now, how about a photo or two of the contents of some of those containers?

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PostPosted: Apr 25, 2016 07:36    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

I hesitate. We've been at it for many years. Maybe we hoard. Collector sounds better.


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PostPosted: Apr 25, 2016 07:59    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

My posting may get me into a bit of trouble, but I will never-the-less post it as I feel it makes 2 important points. The previous postings with pictures shows 2 problems: hoarding vs collecting and the advancing age of many field collectors.

As to the first point. I collect Indiana geodes and have a large collection including many very hi end examples. [Some of these can be seen in the Mindat geode thread.] I now bring home only 4 or 5 per year, leaving the rest at the collecting sites. If I brought home most that I might find, I might now be homeless with rocks everywhere. I have wholesaled and sold off most of my lower end examples including my whole store room. Any field collector who continues to accumulate boxed up examples with little or no intention to sell off duplicates and lower end examples becomes a hoarder and no longer can be considered just a "collector". That is my opinion.

As to my second point. I am now over 70 y.o. and see in your pix that you, Vic, and your collector buddies seem to be right up there with me. That seems to be the way it is with field collectors. Lots of older collectors and not that many younger field collectors starting out. Lots of reasons why this might be the case, but the basic fact is that the field collector age is up there and increasing. Younger collectors certainly are out there, but not nearly in the numbers to replace the older field collecting folks. Unfortunately within the next 5 - 10 years many will no longer be physically able to get out and field collect. The total numbers of field collectors will then dwindle down. Now, looking at the bigger picture, is mineral collecting destined for a significant reduction in collector numbers?? Only time will tell. CHEERS.....BOB
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PostPosted: Apr 25, 2016 09:06    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

Yes Bob, I'm up there, and every day I can do some work is well spent. I hesitate to discuss the dispersion of the collected quartz, because this would violate the spirit of the FMF mission. I will say that bringing up young field collectors and sharing our finds with them, school talks, show exhibits, field trips and in casual conversation to anyone who will put up with it, has been part of my mission for a long time. So, Bob, the stuff is out there and when I can no longer go into the field, I'll take my field trips on FMF and visit my hoard. Ahh, my precious. I know my retirement plan leaves much to be desired, minerals are not very liquid. Thanks for the input, Bob. Keep it up.


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PostPosted: Apr 25, 2016 09:16    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

Mike Wood wrote:
Thanks Vic, it's nice to see your photo's of work in progress. Hope you hit some big pockets this season.



Thanks Mike. Don't jinx me. ;-)
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PostPosted: Apr 25, 2016 10:00    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

vic rzonca wrote:
65 cm. Garter snake. Harmless.
Cute snake. Looks similar to the grass snakes we have in Germany, found one some years ago while working in my parent's garden (and realeased it in the nearby forest):


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PostPosted: Jun 15, 2016 10:03    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

A lucky strike at the Ridge after a bit of a slow start.


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PostPosted: Jun 18, 2016 16:07    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

Very nice. Hope that isn't all you've found in the last six weeks!
(Crosses fingers) ;-)

Has the weather been kind thus far?

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PostPosted: Jul 06, 2016 21:24    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

The first few weeks were a little slow Mike, but...


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PostPosted: Jul 07, 2016 01:28    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

Wow Vic!!!! It looks like you can finally retire now :-)
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PostPosted: Jul 07, 2016 13:13    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

Just sensational, Vic. Congratulations.
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PostPosted: Jul 13, 2016 07:44    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

Now for something completely different. It's not all crystal hunting on the ridge.


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We have very good relations with our Amish neighbors. For gratis, they use all the fields around the high ground to plant silage for the milkers. They also harvest the quartz druze that we don't use to sell at their farm stand, and do pretty good with it.
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PostPosted: Oct 06, 2016 14:52    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

One from a new location. Not far from the Ridge as the crow flies. And not very deep as the plow goes.


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PostPosted: Nov 14, 2016 11:57    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

It's been a good season at the Ridge, but haven't had time to post much. My real job gets in the way of fun some how. The weather has been dry, drought dry, and here we are in November and the temps are above freezing at night and mid to high fifties during the day.


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With help from brother hydraulic.
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Looks better in person.
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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2016 01:18    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

Wow, that is some amazing operations you have going there. How many tones is that hydraulic of yours rated at? Must be hell of a strong to lift rock like that.
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PostPosted: Nov 15, 2016 08:04    Post subject: Re: Collecting quartz on the Little Falls dolostone  

Reinhardt van Vuuren wrote:
Wow, that is some amazing operations you have going there. How many tones is that hydraulic of yours rated at? Must be hell of a strong to lift rock like that.


Reinhardt, the ones we use are 30, 60 and 100 ton rams with a two stage pump. Although the 100 ton has been foiled by the ledge, if you pick your battles carefully you will find the weakest point. One problem is that at times the loosened block is large and must be moved more than a couple of inches or broken up in place. We are lucky in that we have a small track hoe for pushing things around after the ram has broken it free. Hydraulics are a great thing.



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