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Fiebre Verde

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Posted: Dec 09, 2015 15:26 Post subject: Re: Best examples of trapiche emerald crystals? |
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Roger Warin wrote: | hi,
I see I'm not the only one to admire Trapiches emeralds.
I saw 4 beautiful Trapiches at the last Munich Show.
I photographed under cross-polarized light one of them. We discover the crystal growth lines. Crystallization is one of the simplest methods to purify a mineral. The impurities are rejected in front of the solid phase taking shape.
This emerald comes from Muzo, Colombia. While other Muzo trapiches have rejected feldspars, this one had ejected carbonaceous impurities, always abundant in this Muzo shale.
That's what I think, do you?
Roger. |
Roger, I can only second what Elise mentioned about your photographs. Please share more!
Regarding your comment about the rejected impurities - I guess all depends on the nature of the impurities found during the growth of the trapiche.
Muzo is best known for its high concentration of carbonaceous impurities but other type of impurities can also occur in the growth process. Not only feldspar (albite) but also monazite, K-feldspar (presumably adularia), epidote, apatite and zircon (Ohnenstetter & al., 1998 - Emeraudes Trapiches Colombiennes, L'Emeraude, Association Française de Gemmologie)
Gérard
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marco campos-venuti

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Posted: Dec 10, 2015 18:59 Post subject: Re: Best examples of trapiche emerald crystals? |
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What about this?
Mineral: | Emerald trapiche crystal, Tucson 2011 |
Locality: | Muzo mining district, Western Emerald Belt, Boyacá Department, Colombia |  |
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Roger Warin

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Posted: Dec 11, 2015 03:25 Post subject: Re: Best examples of trapiche emerald crystals? |
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It’s time to listen a master of crystallography.
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Roger Warin

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Posted: Dec 11, 2015 03:34 Post subject: Re: Best examples of trapiche emerald crystals? |
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Thank you very much Elise, Gerard.
The word Trapiche has its origin in the name of ore grinding rolls in South America. It's a geological concept, perhaps earlier.
Isabella Pignatelli and all describe the phenomenon very well.
As the birefringence of emerald is very small, I used a trick to increase the retardation and thus accentuate colorations.
A gypsum plate is inserted between the trapiche and the polarizing filter. Its function is to add a known retardation. Gypsum produces a 550 nm red retardation.
This view is with the gypsum plate inserted most areas shift to first order yellow whereas a few shift to low second-order blue color.
Of course the sample is not a thin section. Its thickness is 4 mm.
Just for fun.
Roger.
Mineral: | Emerald - trapiche emerald |
Dimensions: | thickness = 4 mm |
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NellsRocks

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Posted: Dec 11, 2015 16:26 Post subject: Re: Best examples of trapiche emerald crystals? |
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Forgive my newbie question, but these photos look a LOT like our local chiastolite. Can anyone explain in simple terms how these "patterns" are formed?
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Vinoterapia
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Posted: Dec 12, 2015 11:18 Post subject: Re: Best examples of trapiche emerald crystals? |
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Hi Roger.
I do not know the meaning of the word "Trapiche" in the whole of South America, but at least in Venezuela, trapiche is a place where the sugar cane is processed to produce a highly alcoholic spirit, something like what in the US is known as "moonshine".
The cogwheels used to crush the sugar cane have some resemblance to the so called "trapiche emerald", thus probably that is the origin of the name.
Regards.
José Luis.
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Elise

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Posted: Mar 14, 2016 13:33 Post subject: Re: Best examples of trapiche emerald crystals? |
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NellsRocks wrote: | Forgive my newbie question, but these photos look a LOT like our local chiastolite. Can anyone explain in simple terms how these "patterns" are formed? |
Hi - I started a thread on trapiche nomenclature which includes chiastolite; hopefully some discussion will develop in answer your question: https://www.mineral-forum.com/message-board/viewtopic.php?p=49893#49893
Cheers,
Elise
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