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PostPosted: Sep 05, 2016 09:44    Post subject: Re: Quartz collecting outings in South Africa  

James wrote:
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How about the method used by our stone-age ancestors. Drive some dry wood into the gap them wet it? Works a treat but takes time.

James


::-) :-) :-) Hi James. I am not the most patient man in the mineral kingdom! I would rather put a stick (of dynamite) in the gap and heat it :-)

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PostPosted: Sep 12, 2016 05:11    Post subject: Re: Quartz collecting outings in South Africa  

I drove out, this past Saturday, to the place that I mentioned last. It is only about 6km drive from our home and about 3km as the crow flies. Here are a few photos and a short video of this trip. Even though the pockets did not yield much, it was a very fulfilling afternoon.

Here is a lovely video of a Smith's red rock hare that I managed to video tape.






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A quick stop in the pear orchard to take a picture. The pear trees are in full bloom.
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A close up of tomorrow's fruit.
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One of my favourite wild flowers; a vine with beautiful flowers.
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We call this the quartz valley as everywhere you look are white quartz. The crystals however, are not that easy to find.
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The area has wonderful sandstone rock formations.
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Rock formations caused by weathering.
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Rock formations caused by weathering.
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The vicinity just above the digging area.
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Mostly drusy small crystals on matrix.
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Parts of the pockets exposed; mostly just cavities lined with small crystals.
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The pockets exposed.
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Quartz everywhere.
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Spot the rabbit if you can.
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Smith's red rock hare.
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Same as above. It is seldom that you get the opportunity to get close to these mountain creatures to photograph them. Talking to them helps:-)
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PostPosted: Sep 12, 2016 05:43    Post subject: Re: Quartz collecting outings in South Africa  

Hello Pierre, you make it really difficult not to come down in December. I just love the Cape. Regards.
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PostPosted: Sep 12, 2016 06:06    Post subject: Re: Quartz collecting outings in South Africa  

Heimo Hellwig wrote:
Hello Pierre, you make it really difficult not to come down in December. I just love the Cape. Regards.


Hello Heimo. I will do my best to make it even more difficult for you in the next few months:-)

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PostPosted: Sep 15, 2016 18:33    Post subject: Re: Quartz collecting outings in South Africa  

Thanks for showing your photo's Pierre, it looks a promising area you have found.
If your long wrecking bar was bent near the tip of the chisel end, you should be able to lift that quartz ledge. Maybe give the far side of the quartz ledge a few taps with a 2kg lumphammer in a line where you want the break to occur, hopefully!

Or drive in some (wooden?) wedges and see what gives.

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PostPosted: Sep 16, 2016 15:23    Post subject: Re: Quartz collecting outings in South Africa  

Mike Wood wrote:
Thanks for showing your photo's Pierre, it looks a promising area you have found.
If your long wrecking bar was bent near the tip of the chisel end, you should be able to lift that quartz ledge. Maybe give the far side of the quartz ledge a few taps with a 2kg lumphammer in a line where you want the break to occur, hopefully!

Or drive in some (wooden?) wedges and see what gives.

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Hi Mike. It is a pleasure! Here are a few of the small clusters that came out of these pockets; most are floaters. There where also a few larger plates, but mostly drusy small crystals. The specimens look far better in person.



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Ceres, Warmbokkeveld Valley, Witzenberg, Cape Winelands, Western Cape Province, South Africa
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PostPosted: Sep 17, 2016 07:16    Post subject: Re: Quartz collecting outings in South Africa  

A while ago, I mentioned a new area that I explored; well, on Thursday afternoon I drove out to the same area and explored a section to the right of where I was last. I enjoyed the variety of flowers, found a few bits of clear quartz here and there till I found a promising area. It is amazing how many pockets I found by just following up the smallest of leads. In this case it was a loose rock with nice crystals. A bit higher up, I found just a few loose crystals. Just as I was about to give up, I noticed a small hole at the foot of a large quartz boulder. The hole was partly covered by a small bush. When I enlarged the small hole, it opened up into a very generous pocket of quartz. I spent a few hours removing about half of the content; many of which were plates just with facets. There were also a lot of clusters and single crystals. We plan to visit this exciting pocket again some time in the future, to remove the rest of the crystals. May you enjoy this trip with me.


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Flowers on the way. This flower always faces down, away from the sun.
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Flowers.
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The place of interest. New, unexplored area.
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While ascending the steep outcrop, I could not help enjoying all the flowers. This strange plant/flower has always intrigued me.
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Beautiful flowers. This type ranges in colours, white, pink, purple.
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PostPosted: Sep 17, 2016 07:29    Post subject: Re: Quartz collecting outings in South Africa  

I continue this outing with more photos.


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This specie is rather unusual and not often seen.
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As above.
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More flower magic!
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More flowers.
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This chap drilled one hole to many (my leg). I managed to seriously damage his machinery.
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The first good lead of fun to come.
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PostPosted: Sep 17, 2016 13:04    Post subject: Re: Quartz collecting outings in South Africa  

nice flowers
it seems that you enjoyed your field trip

thanks for sharing
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PostPosted: Sep 17, 2016 15:29    Post subject: Re: Quartz collecting outings in South Africa  

Philippe Durand wrote:
nice flowers
it seems that you enjoyed your field trip

thanks for sharing


Hi Philippe. Indeed! This time of the year is when most flowers bloom; and then there was the big pocket of crystals! I tried to put this pocket in perspective and came to the conclusion that it was certainly one of the 20 best pockets I ever found. I, or my wife, still have to remove the rest of the pocket's contents. Here are some more photos of this trip and some of it's rewards. The crystals shown are partially cleaned. There are quite a few with light phantoms.



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When I started enlarging the hole, i removed this slab with crystals first.
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At this stage, I was working at opening the entrance to the pocket.
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I opened up the pocket and now I am ready to harvest.
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 Mineral: Quartz
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Ceres, Warmbokkeveld Valley, Witzenberg, Cape Winelands, Western Cape Province, South Africa
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These crystals have only been partially cleaned.
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Ceres, Warmbokkeveld Valley, Witzenberg, Cape Winelands, Western Cape Province, South Africa
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Showing the pocket from a few metres away.
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I removed many plates like these and left most there.
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Some crystals are milky and others very clear.
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PostPosted: Sep 17, 2016 15:34    Post subject: Re: Quartz collecting outings in South Africa  

A few more photos.


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There are still many crystals left in the pocket, including this big cluster, which I think will be difficult to remove intact.
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By by pocket! Lord willing, we will meet again.
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PostPosted: Sep 18, 2016 06:08    Post subject: Re: Quartz collecting outings in South Africa  

there are some great specimens
keep on going
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PostPosted: Sep 18, 2016 08:45    Post subject: Re: Quartz collecting outings in South Africa  

Philippe Durand wrote:
there are some great specimens
keep on going


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PostPosted: Sep 19, 2016 00:48    Post subject: Re: Quartz collecting outings in South Africa  

wow, beautiful stuff, looks like you two are going to remove quartz for days in this area. Can't wait to see some of the best from this pocket once they are completely cleaned up. :)
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Reinhardt van Vuuren wrote:
wow, beautiful stuff, looks like you two are going to remove quartz for days in this area. Can't wait to see some of the best from this pocket once they are completely cleaned up. :)


Thank you Reinhardt. It will be a while before we visit this area again, as we have a lot to do at the moment. All the best.

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PostPosted: Oct 01, 2016 08:44    Post subject: Re: Quartz collecting outings in South Africa  

Yesterday, Thursday the 29th/Sept, Riana and I arrived at about 9:30 am at the place where I found the last pocket. We ascended the rather steep hill and had to search to find the well camouflaged pocket (even though I marked it with a plastic bag tied to a nearby bush). I put Riana to work (not that she minded), while I checked the area for more pockets. About 15 meters to the right, I found a few crystals lying on the ground and started searching at the foot of a big rock for the source. Finding nothing, I stood up and noticed a hole in the rock, just above eye level. When I peeked inside, I saw many crystals and started removing some of the loose ones. I put a flat rock at the bottom, so Riana could reach the pocket, and called her as the contents looked promising. Later on, I enlarged the mouth of the pocket up a bit more with a chisel and hammer. She spent a good few hours removing many fine crystals from this pocket. By the time we left, there where some more left with the pocket getting deep and difficult to reach. While she was busy with her pleasurable task, I resumed working on the other pocket. Even though there were still a lot of crystals in the pocket, it was getting more difficult to remove them. I damaged a number of fine crystals, as it was very difficult to remove one without damaging the other. I had to work in an awkward position, which did not help either. At about 4:30 pm, I had enough. My body could not take it anymore. There were still a lot of crystals left; hopefully for another day. I stayed with Riana while she kept getting more crystals. At a certain point we stopped and battled down the steep decline with tools and about 20 kg of crystals. This was arguably one of our best days ever in the Western Cape area, but at a price. Today I am feeling like a real old man. When we have rested sufficiently, we will attempt to sort out the best specimens for cleaning.




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Ceres, Warmbokkeveld Valley, Witzenberg, Cape Winelands, Western Cape Province, South Africa
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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Ceres, Warmbokkeveld Valley, Witzenberg, Cape Winelands, Western Cape Province, South Africa
 Dimensions: Fingers for size
 Description:
 Viewed:  6961 Time(s)

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 Locality:
Ceres, Warmbokkeveld Valley, Witzenberg, Cape Winelands, Western Cape Province, South Africa
 Dimensions: Fingers for size
 Description:
 Viewed:  6973 Time(s)

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 Locality:
Ceres, Warmbokkeveld Valley, Witzenberg, Cape Winelands, Western Cape Province, South Africa
 Description:
This was mostly what Riana removed from the smaller pocket.
 Viewed:  6987 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Ceres, Warmbokkeveld Valley, Witzenberg, Cape Winelands, Western Cape Province, South Africa
 Dimensions: Fingers for size
 Description:
Quartz from smaller pocket.
 Viewed:  6995 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Ceres, Warmbokkeveld Valley, Witzenberg, Cape Winelands, Western Cape Province, South Africa
 Dimensions: Fingers for size
 Description:
 Viewed:  6970 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Ceres, Warmbokkeveld Valley, Witzenberg, Cape Winelands, Western Cape Province, South Africa
 Dimensions: Fingers for size
 Description:
 Viewed:  6973 Time(s)

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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Ceres, Warmbokkeveld Valley, Witzenberg, Cape Winelands, Western Cape Province, South Africa
 Dimensions: Fingers for size
 Description:
 Viewed:  6953 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Oct 01, 2016 08:54    Post subject: Re: Quartz collecting outings in South Africa  

A few more photos.


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 Mineral: Quartz
 Locality:
Ceres, Warmbokkeveld Valley, Witzenberg, Cape Winelands, Western Cape Province, South Africa
 Dimensions: Fingers for size
 Description:
 Viewed:  6950 Time(s)

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The smaller pocket that goes straight down.
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Riana busy at the larger, ackward, pocket.
 Viewed:  6969 Time(s)

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Riana at the smaller, deep, pocket.
 Viewed:  6991 Time(s)

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 Description:
Some of her finds.
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Looking down the pocket.
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 Description:
Some more of her finds.
 Viewed:  6960 Time(s)

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Riana at her pocket.
 Viewed:  6973 Time(s)

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 Description:
The beautiful, rare flowers that resembles a closed hand.
 Viewed:  6967 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Oct 01, 2016 23:07    Post subject: Re: Quartz collecting outings in South Africa  

I love your field collecting trip reports Pierre.. A great many of the best days of my life have been spent collecting. There is just nothing else like being the first to see the earth's awesome creations emerge into light.

I shall endeavor to make a greater effort to post some of my own with your inspiration. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2016 02:20    Post subject: Re: Quartz collecting outings in South Africa  

Mark Randle wrote:
I love your field collecting trip reports Pierre.. A great many of the best days of my life have been spent collecting. There is just nothing else like being the first to see the earth's awesome creations emerge into light.

I shall endeavor to make a greater effort to post some of my own with your inspiration. Thanks.
Mark


Hi Mark. Thank you. I am glad you enjoy our endeavours! I am, very much, looking forward to your posts. Best regards.

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PostPosted: Oct 02, 2016 03:34    Post subject: Re: Quartz collecting outings in South Africa  

Thank you Pierre, it brings back lots of memories from various trips I made back when I used to collect almost every weekend.

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