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texasdigger
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Posted: May 21, 2017 15:54 Post subject: Quarter million fake Tourmaline cluster. |
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This is a newer listing on Ebay.
They are the most expensive Tourmalines presently on Ebay...and its a glue job
Search Tourmaline then sort as most expensive first or
MUSEUM GRADE WATERMELON TOURMALINE CLUSTER (PINK AND GREEN CRYSTALS ON QUARTZ) |
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Don Lum

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Posted: May 21, 2017 16:10 Post subject: Re: Quarter million fake Tourmaline cluster. |
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texasdigger wrote: | This is a newer listing on Ebay.
They are the most expensive Tourmalines presently on Ebay...and its a glue job. |
Thanks Texasdigger. I just looked at eBay and did not find. What can you tell us about it. _________________ hogwild |
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texasdigger
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Posted: May 21, 2017 16:12 Post subject: Re: Quarter million fake Tourmaline cluster. |
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search Tourmaline then sort as most expensive first or
MUSEUM GRADE WATERMELON TOURMALINE CLUSTER (PINK AND GREEN CRYSTALS ON QUARTZ) |
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Don Lum

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Posted: May 21, 2017 16:15 Post subject: Re: Quarter million fake Tourmaline cluster. |
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texasdigger wrote: | search Tourmaline then sort as most expensive first or
MUSEUM GRADE WATERMELON TOURMALINE CLUSTER (PINK AND GREEN CRYSTALS ON QUARTZ) |
Thanks _________________ hogwild |
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Jean Sendero

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Posted: May 21, 2017 16:17 Post subject: Re: Quarter million fake Tourmaline cluster. |
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With the end of the description....
This magnificent piece will be fully insured by third party carrier for the purchase price.
SOLD AS IS. NO RETURNS ACCEPTED - NO WARRANTIES OFFERED OR ASSUMED. |
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Fiebre Verde

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Posted: May 21, 2017 16:48 Post subject: Re: Quarter million fake Tourmaline cluster. |
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It also says
"... matrix is professionally created and not originally formed by nature"
Looks very unprofessional to me! |
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alfredo
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Posted: May 21, 2017 17:00 Post subject: Re: Quarter million fake Tourmaline cluster. |
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Anyone willing to spend a quarter million $$$ on E-bay, and for something with no warranty no less, needs their head examined ;)) |
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texasdigger
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Posted: May 21, 2017 17:08 Post subject: Re: Quarter million fake Tourmaline cluster. |
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Agreed thats a very obvious, bad glue job.
Maybe with the $225,000.00 they can afford a better camera.
The seller needs his head examined as well. He is serious about the price. I messaged him about it.
His response, "We don’t debate or argue with ignorant people...
we have no interest in your likes or dislikes....
But to further enlighten you, given the size and magnificent quality of the tourmalines, the same exact piece would fetch close to 1 million in todays’ market if it were a naturally formed.
You are blocked from our site..." |
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Jean Sendero

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Posted: May 21, 2017 17:18 Post subject: Re: Quarter million fake Tourmaline cluster. |
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Run, run faster...no big deal to be blocked from their site. |
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John Betts
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Posted: May 21, 2017 17:18 Post subject: Re: Quarter million fake Tourmaline cluster. |
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Thank you for providing me a good laugh! It really made my day.
That takes real chutzpah! _________________ John Betts |
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Bob Harman
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Posted: May 21, 2017 18:37 Post subject: Re: Quarter million fake Tourmaline cluster. |
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For those that do not know "chutzpah" is a NYC euphemism for...........balls!
What I find somewhat interesting in all this is that some very large complex tourmalines and Colorado smoky quartz/amazonite specimens etc are multipully repaired, restored, reenforced and otherwise fixed up. The jobs are professional and look good; then the high end dealers tell all and their high end customers actually do spend the similar $$$ to buy the examples with no regrets. BOB |
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alfredo
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Posted: May 21, 2017 19:24 Post subject: Re: Quarter million fake Tourmaline cluster. |
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Another way to look at it is that they are selling a work of art, not a real mineral specimen, and they openly admit that, so they aren't cheating anyone. What's the price of art nowadays? There's an item in the news today about a painting that sold for $100,000,000...
Makes mineral collecting look like a poor person's hobby ;)) |
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texasdigger
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Posted: May 21, 2017 19:49 Post subject: Re: Quarter million fake Tourmaline cluster. |
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Some of the most beautiful, striking tourmaline are indeed repaired.
Look at all the Pederneira clusters. The differences I see are that they are restored to original condition and the repairs are not so evident.
Ill commend him for admitting its man created but the price is off no matter how you look at it. Maybe12K in rough, (sadly, not enough good pics to accurately determine individual value), plus cost of epoxy and labor should not equal $225,000.00.
Oh, I love the "art" angle because it works. Remember the potato photograph that sold for 1 million Euro.... insane. |
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Pierre Joubert
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Posted: May 22, 2017 03:49 Post subject: Re: Quarter million fake Tourmaline cluster. |
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alfredo wrote: | Anyone willing to spend a quarter million $$$ on E-bay, and for something with no warranty no less, needs their head examined ;)) |
Anyone paying such money for such a 'specimen' must suffer loss. There is no remedy for stupidity. _________________ Pierre Joubert
'The tree of silence bears the fruit of peace. ' |
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Jordi Fabre
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Posted: May 22, 2017 04:05 Post subject: Re: Quarter million fake Tourmaline cluster. |
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I just deleted the related images. I believe they should be protected by some kind of copyright.
Thanks for the understanding. |
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