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ploum
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Posted: Nov 09, 2011 11:33 Post subject: Re: New generation for picture |
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Ok Jordi.... compliment = photos !
Each photo is ever a compilation with stacking technic. For each 15 mn to 30 mn of work.
I have a new computer for win some time. Before 60 minutes for computer a double core. Now 1 minutes for last core i7. But photos are not automatic but some system exist but no personnality in this system.
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chris
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Posted: Nov 09, 2011 12:12 Post subject: Re: New generation for picture |
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Quote: | For beginning it's better to know use perfectly close up and a stacking software. |
Sorry to ask this, but could you give some details about your "stacking software". I've read a bit myself about this technique, but I'm not sure all FMF members know about it. Didn't know such processing was so much time consuming. It is due to the pictures' high definition and the fact you need several of them to get a decent result ?
Even if they are criticized as"artificial picture" in Switzerland, they remain quite impressive for me, and I'm glad you have decided to publish some more :-).
Christophe
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Susan Robinson
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Posted: Nov 09, 2011 12:29 Post subject: Re: New generation for picture |
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Your photos are spectacular! Finally, there is a way to have photos of micro minerals fully in focus. Keep up the good work.
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ploum
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Posted: Nov 09, 2011 12:31 Post subject: Re: New generation for picture |
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When you take a photo of a small object, depth of field is very small. To compensate for this, 3 mathematics software exists to make a compilation = stacking. You take a picture in manual mode and you sweep all the object with micrometric system.
I take 30 - 150 picture for one photo.... And when I am done, the computer works hard at the same time.
I use the free software: Combine ZP
In fact, all photos of small things are made like this. But if photos before compilation are not good, there the final result is not good !
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Carminite, beudantite and adamite Laurion, Greece fov 1.1 mm |
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weaver
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Posted: Nov 09, 2011 12:31 Post subject: Re: New generation for picture |
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Guess for stacking pictures:
I cannot say what the original poster was doing, but I am reminded of the techniques used for animation.
Back in the day, the 2d animators invented some cameras that allowed for parallax. In recent times, 3d animators use computers to take virtual snapshots. In the 3d world of animation, computers are still often not powerful enough to achieve the ultra realism that our current film/video/CCD cameras can shoot. So they fake it.
In the 3d world, they use the same camera many times over. So they might render 3-30 "render passes." This means they take the same photograph 3 times in a row, on the same spot, but with wildly different settings. One might be a specular pass, where it simple catches B&W for the highlight of the subject. Another might be a color pass, that simply catches the colors, without other details. Ambient lighting, occlusion, etc.
Perhaps, since the rock is a fixed subject, you could have the camera do just this. Think of it as a hand-made HDR setup, that you dial into your camera manually (do they make cameras that shoot HDR at macro sizes? I am out of touch with the real camera world.) The "stacking" would be perhaps the technique of layering pictures? Similar to photo manipulation software's (Photoshop, GIMP) "Layers."
Anyway, perhaps there is a way to "fake it" using the same equipment you already have- yet achieve similar results.
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Awesome thread. Wow! Thank you for sharing!
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weaver
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Posted: Nov 09, 2011 12:34 Post subject: Re: New generation for picture |
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150 frame bracket!!!
I guessed 30.
Makes total sense to me now that you posted that. Thanks!
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ploum
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Antonio Alcaide
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Posted: Nov 09, 2011 15:31 Post subject: Re: New generation for picture |
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Ploum, I still remember the last time you shared your awesome pictures here. Thanks for your new visit. I would not mind this thread being infinite...
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ploum
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Posted: Nov 09, 2011 15:56 Post subject: Re: New generation for picture |
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I continue if your are all interested.
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John Medici
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Posted: Nov 09, 2011 16:32 Post subject: Re: New generation for picture |
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Ploum, great pictures, merci! Thanks for sharing the minerals and techniques.
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ploum
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Posted: Nov 09, 2011 16:38 Post subject: Re: New generation for picture |
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A pleasure for me too. It's not usual in france congratulations....
I have finished 4 photos i come back.... in few minutes.
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ploum
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Posted: Nov 09, 2011 16:47 Post subject: Re: New generation for picture |
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Azurite on quartz Mont-Chemin, Valais, Switzerland fov 2.5 mm |
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Azurite on quartz Mont-Chemin, Valais, Switzerland FOV = 1.1 mm |
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Azurite, quartz and calcite or titanite ????? Mont-Chemin, Valais, Switzerland FOV = 1 mm |
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Debbie Woolf
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Posted: Nov 10, 2011 18:45 Post subject: Re: New generation for picture |
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ploum wrote: | I continue if your are all interested. |
We certainly are, this is a friendly forum & we appreciate all minerals & good photography.
If you keep posting daily we'll have a fabre forum daily favourite to rival another site (mindat) just joking with you all :0)
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ploum
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Posted: Nov 11, 2011 14:46 Post subject: Re: New generation for picture |
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Antonio Alcaide
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Posted: Nov 12, 2011 03:33 Post subject: Re: New generation for picture |
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Col de la Madeleine... humm...
From this latter photo, I will always remember the mineral species found there when watching the "Tour de France" on TV.
Not only the fantastic pictures but also the sites with its classic "flavor and bouquet".
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